Choose Secondary school for 2010

[millan]

Bentan:

All appeals should be made with one pre-condition: parents and child must all agree to appeal. If the parents want it and the child disagree, please do not proceed. Whereas if the child wants it and the parents disagree, please work it out so that your child is happy with the Secondary school that he is staying.


Having said that, I do have cases where the child does not take the issue as seriously as the parents. My role then is to help both parties see the various scenarios and decide together on the final course.

One example is a Malaysian boy who came to Singapore at the age of 12. He was not allowed to start with P6 and so was 1 year older than his classmates. In Sec-2 he repeated due to BGR and became 2 years older than his classmates. After Sec-3 the Principal decided that he should be transfered to Sec-4 N-level. The parents wanted to appeal but he was not as keen. Knowing that he had developed inferiority complex over the years, I sat down with the family and help them see all possibilities to arrive at a mutually acceptable course.

Such case is much more complex as it requires regular follow up. The boy finally agreed with the appeal and the Principal also admitted him into Sec-4 Express. However, this is not the end to it. The boy needs regular motivation and reminder to get out of inferiority. I such cases I had to work closely with the parents throughout the year to keep him going...

Hi,

I have been hearing abt this appeal thingy. What U mean is that if you are eligible but bec there's too many applicants, you can appeal to get into the school? Will this delay the chance of getting into the 2nd school?
Any idea how they decide whether to tak in those in this waiting list? And what is the considerations scools wil hv in mind when accepting these cases in appeal? And when should U appeal?

thks

[millan]

Bentan:

All appeals should be made with one pre-condition: parents and child must all agree to appeal. If the parents want it and the child disagree, please do not proceed. Whereas if the child wants it and the parents disagree, please work it out so that your child is happy with the Secondary school that he is staying.


Having said that, I do have cases where the child does not take the issue as seriously as the parents. My role then is to help both parties see the various scenarios and decide together on the final course.

One example is a Malaysian boy who came to Singapore at the age of 12. He was not allowed to start with P6 and so was 1 year older than his classmates. In Sec-2 he repeated due to BGR and became 2 years older than his classmates. After Sec-3 the Principal decided that he should be transfered to Sec-4 N-level. The parents wanted to appeal but he was not as keen. Knowing that he had developed inferiority complex over the years, I sat down with the family and help them see all possibilities to arrive at a mutually acceptable course.

Such case is much more complex as it requires regular follow up. The boy finally agreed with the appeal and the Principal also admitted him into Sec-4 Express. However, this is not the end to it. The boy needs regular motivation and reminder to get out of inferiority. I such cases I had to work closely with the parents throughout the year to keep him going...

Hi,

I have been hearing abt this appeal thingy. What U mean is that if you are eligible but bec there's too many applicants, you can appeal to get into the school? Will this delay the chance of getting into the 2nd school?
Any idea how they decide whether to tak in those in this waiting list? And what is the considerations scools wil hv in mind when accepting these cases in appeal? And when should U appeal?

thks

[Fairy]

westmom:

Fairy:

You're right. Track record is important. Eg. Nan Hua High was band 3 last year but became band 1 this year. Maybe that's the reason why the principal was promoted to head Dunman High. Bukit Panjang Govt High was band 2 last year but band 1 this year. St Margaret was band 1 last year but band 3 this year.

I think you got it a bit mixed up. St.Margaret was band 1 last year and remained band 1 (not band 3) this year for their normal stream.

But I was refering to Express Stream.

[CrazyDad]

Bentan:

All appeals should be made with one pre-condition: parents and child must all agree to appeal. If the parents want it and the child disagree, please do not proceed. Whereas if the child wants it and the parents disagree, please work it out so that your child is happy with the Secondary school that he is staying.


Having said that, I do have cases where the child does not take the issue as seriously as the parents. My role then is to help both parties see the various scenarios and decide together on the final course.

One example is a Malaysian boy who came to Singapore at the age of 12. He was not allowed to start with P6 and so was 1 year older than his classmates. In Sec-2 he repeated due to BGR and became 2 years older than his classmates. After Sec-3 the Principal decided that he should be transfered to Sec-4 N-level. The parents wanted to appeal but he was not as keen. Knowing that he had developed inferiority complex over the years, I sat down with the family and help them see all possibilities to arrive at a mutually acceptable course.

Such case is much more complex as it requires regular follow up. The boy finally agreed with the appeal and the Principal also admitted him into Sec-4 Express. However, this is not the end to it. The boy needs regular motivation and reminder to get out of inferiority. I such cases I had to work closely with the parents throughout the year to keep him going...

Hi Bentan (Master Appeal) , Normally what is the best excuse to appeal?

[CrazyDad]

Fairy:

But I was refering to Express Stream.

Hi Fairy,
For both band 1 school like TKGS and St. Nic, why St. Nic need 10 more COP?

[CrazyDad]

RedRedWine:

By doing so, i'm afraid my kid will suffer, he might end up the worst in his cohort. There's also ego issue to consider. When choosing for the sec school, beside COP, i also look at the mean score. Am i worry too much?

Hi RedRedWine, On the bright side, there is only one direction for your kid to go, interm of result, is UP and UP.
:celebrate:

[westmom]

Fairy:

But I was refering to Express Stream.

For Express stream, St.Margaret was Band 4 last year and improved to Band 3 this year. Their \"academic value added award\" achievement was consistent throughout many years..4 stars (2 + 2)

[daisyt]

millan:

Hi,

I have been hearing abt this appeal thingy. What U mean is that if you are eligible but bec there's too many applicants, you can appeal to get into the school? Will this delay the chance of getting into the 2nd school?
Any idea how they decide whether to tak in those in this waiting list? And what is the considerations scools wil hv in mind when accepting these cases in appeal? And when should U appeal?
thks

Hi millan, if you are talking about appeal to the choice school after the Sec School posting result is out, I can briefly explain here.

When your child put in the 6 choices, MOE would post your child to the school that your child meets the criteria, ie COP, vacancy of the school. If your child did not get in to his choice school, he can choose to appeal. Appeal is done after the Sec School posting result is out (on or after 22nd Dec for this year). You need to go to the school you wish to appeal, submit the form and necessary documents. Depends on individiual school, their requriements are different. Eg. P5 and P6 result slip, special talent certificiate .... While your child is being put on waiting list, he still needs to report to the sec school posted by MOE on the reporting day (23rd Dec for this year). However, you can hold on the buying of books and uniforms first. Usually, if your child is being selected by the appeal school, he would need to go for interview. Then they would inform you if succesful or not after the interview. Appeal and acceptance process can last till 1st week of January. I have seen cases where appeal schools called up successful students on the 31st Dec and some, even on 1st week of Jan, when the students already started school in their posted schools.

Hope the above helps.

[caroline3sg]

daisyt

That means cannot buy uniform & books even sch start in Jan. Then wear pri sch uniform to sec sch?

And if appeal successful, need letter of release from the allocated sec sch, right?

[mrswongtuition]

caroline3sg:

daisyt

That means cannot buy uniform & books even sch start in Jan. Then wear pri sch uniform to sec sch?

And if appeal successful, need letter of release from the allocated sec sch, right?

Yes, wear primary school uniform first. There are alot of such cases. They only buy uniform when their appeals are officially replied (successful or not).

Most of the time, the appeal process can be up to 1-2 weeks. Sometimes, it can be after 1 or 2 terms (students migrate, drop out, transfer to private school, etc).

In my own form class this year, I had 7 cases of transfer out. Then another 7 transferred in. This was during first 2 weeks of school. All transferred out/in at different timing.

After that (during June), 2 left (1 transfer, 1 migrate) and another 2 came in.