Emotional Child = gifted
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Andaiz:
Yes, it trains them to help others along and recognize the fact that not everyone is like them.tamarind:
As for boredom training, it is very easy. Attending nursery/kindergarten everyday with kids of different learning abilities, is already good training. A gifted kid can finish his work in 3 mins while all the others take 30 mins to do. A good teacher should give the child freedom to whatever he likes. Then he has to think of ways to occupy himself. My girl helps her classmates, or draws anything from her imagination with intricate details.
My DD1 still does this in school but the school system frowns on the \"talking\" bit so sometimes she gets it from her draconian EL teacher :roll:
I thought teachers should be taught to be more understanding to kids of different abilities. What do they expect a child to do if she completes her work very quickly ? Sit and stare at the ceiling ? -
tamarind:
Hi tamarind,
... understand the meaning of death more deeply than average kids. My 5 year old boy still does not really understand that my father is no longer in this world. My 6 year old girl understands completely. When she was 3 years old, one day the lift was faulty, and she was so worried about her mommy and daddy that she could not do anything else. Now that she is 6 years old, she is very mature for her age
I always admired your relentless efforts in trying to provide an excellent learning environment to your children (especially reading), despite a full-time working mum!
Anyway, on the topic of emotion, my DD1 frequently shy away from violent, traumatic, or sad movies/dramas. She cannot even tolerate hearing those scenes (even though not watching). She asked me, I think when she was about 5 years old, why do people die? She told me that she didn't want anyone to die, and I could hear her saying that in a sad voice..
I really don't know how to answer her. Recently, she asked me why do people dream? How do people get good/bad dreams? Why do people dream what they dream. How should I respond? Should I treat these questions seriously, e.g. go and do research with her on these questions or should I just answer in simple lay-man terms?
Yes, she is also pretty sensitive emotionally. By the way, my DD2 is pretty different, she would watch the exact same shows that my DD1 would avoid at all cost. Sometimes, she even \"laughs\" when people cry in the scene - I wonder whether she is kinda sadistic :shock: ha ha -
moi_views:
Your child is wonderful that he wants to excel on his own, am sure he is the type who will do well in our current education system. But I think it is impossible to generalize gifted kids characters to a certain stream. Just want to share another story of another gifted kid, a frend's son who have been perceived as \"unwilling to do write properly \" and dislike by teachers in school but at end of P3 was identified as gifted as joined the GEP in school. Hopefully the programme could benefit and nurture him according to his needs and not to focus on scoring high mark as my friend was told.I am a FTWM who joined this website recently. I stumbled across a link below which describe my boy (post by applepie). So I hope to have some feeback on what I can do to help my child.
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=340&highlight=shichida++test
My child is currently 5yrs.. He is a keen reader... loves to ask questions, good creativity.. Loves to do work and is sort-of a perfectionist.. I don't know why.. He gets very upset when he don't do well or get it right at the first attempt and is easily upset by comments made by his peers...
We are not as commited to his work like he does, especially after long hours of work.
Recently I enrolled him to Shichida, and he told me he enjoyed the classes because it's not boring.. Shichida did an IQ test and he scored above 130.. My hubby thinks the test might be too easy (since we do not know content of the IQ paper), so we are monitoring his progress.
He exhibit high-level thinking questions since 4yrs. However, he is too sensitive and careful.. He refused to go into the pool cos he might drown etc.. I don't know if he is gifted, cos there are other areas he is just like other kids, just a tad too emotional. Any suggestions??
I read a lot about logicmills.. Is it really good?
Note the kid has not attended Shichida or any other brain training programme. -
MdmKS:
I know of another boy who fits your description. Doesn't hand in his work, still drawing stickman, not in the best classes and unpopular with both teachers and classmates. You can't imagine the shock they got when he was the only one from the class to get into GEP this year. Definitely no emotional problem but mild ADHD.
Just want to share another story of another gifted kid, a frend's son who have been perceived as \"unwilling to do write properly \" and dislike by teachers in school but at end of P3 was identified as gifted as joined the GEP in school. Hopefully the programme could benefit and nurture him according to his needs and not to focus on scoring high mark as my friend was told.
Note the kid has not attended Shichida or any other brain training programme.
On the contrary, his good friend who is always scoring 90+ in tests and exams, a perfect and obedient child in everybody's eyes, very sensitive and emotional, didn't get into GEP.
So, I totally agree with you that it's impossible to generalize gifted kids characters to a certain stream. -
Hi Tamarind,
Thanks for the advice and book list. U have a great system and knowledge on teaching from your post. I really enjoy reading your post..
The booklist seems difficult for his age though. :shock: I have not read most of these books myself.. :oops:
I usually get him picture books. I wonder if he will be able to finish or understand any on the list. hahha... I'll keep you posted after trying..
To the rest..
Honestly.. I am not sure if he is gifted or whether will he get into GEP. Cos he dun exhibit characteristics of a gifted child; he just has a more emotional thinking process for his age and a love for books. He is not the best in term of learning in his K1 class either. Anyway, it's still a long way till he reach P3. If it happens then, we'll decide if he shd opt in.
I too agree with mdm KS and chamonix that it's impossible to generalize kids characters.
I personally do not know anyone from Shichida or any brain training programme who is gifted. But my friend who bugged more to join told me that her daughter learning improved a lot after Shichida and she didn't even do home practice. I think it all boils down to individual child. :lol: -
tamarind:
Seeing some of the remarks made me curious about my youngest child.These kids have superb memory, and are able to understand difficult concepts effortlessly. For example, you only need to teach them one thing, and they know other things in relation, purely by logical deductions.
She is 4 yr old (k1 going next year). She has superb memory and this comes in the form of things that we told her or places she has gone to or comments/ remarks that we made before. Even though it takes places months ago. Due to that, I am wary of making promises to her because she remembers and will bug you to meet that. But I only observe superb memory for such areas and not academic stuff.
My parents also mentioned to be me that they only need to tell her part 1 and she will be able to deduce part 2 and 3. So she was able to \"pre-empt\" what they are thinking or talking about.
As compared to her siblings, we know for sure that she has very good EQ, know how to please people and she is also very quick witted in her response to adults. She is also very chatty and talks non stop type. From a personality study perspective, she is definitely the flamboyant type.
However, we realised through teachers' feedback that when given a piece of work, she does not take pride in doing her best. She is more concerned with getting it done. That means she might not be doing it neatly etc...
Also, we are wondering if she is using her brain elsewhere. I heard from one of her enrichment class teachers that she can come up with many excuses eg. my hands are tired, i am tired,etc.... and ask if the work can be done at home. Never encounter that with my older kids.
We are trying to monitor those \"undesirable\" aspect of her behaviour and trying to correct her so that her weakness will be reduced. -
moi_views:
I personally do not know anyone from Shichida or any brain training programme who is gifted.
I doubt there is any programme that will transform a normal child into a gifted one. More of unleashing the child's potential? So if a potentially gifted child went through some sort of brain training programme, his or her intelligence traits may become more obviousMMM:
My younger child also like that. Due to birth order?As compared to her siblings, we know for sure that she has very good EQ, know how to please people and she is also very quick witted in her response to adults. She is also very chatty and talks non stop type. From a personality study perspective, she is definitely the flamboyant type.
However, we realised through teachers' feedback that when given a piece of work, she does not take pride in doing her best. She is more concerned with getting it done. That means she might not be doing it neatly etc...
1st born tends to be perfectionist. So when we compare, the younger one seems more sloppy -
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Hopefully it works as desire and not the other way round
There is no scentific proof afterall. My colleague's wife wanted to send their DD for Shichda training, but the husband and the doctor father-in-law strongly object because of these. Reason being it is better to bring the kid to outdoor such as park to explore,..etc -
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Agee. my second child is also by nature more PR and socialable. Each child is unique and gifted in his own way. -
MdmKS:
Yes, appreciate them for their individuality
Agee. my second child is also by nature more PR and socialable. Each child is unique and gifted in his own way.
By the way, I read somewhere, despites personality differences, siblings IQ are usually within 5 pts of each other. So if one is gifted, very likely the other one is gifted too, although the younger one usually may not appear so
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