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    Are you ready for 7 million people on tiny Singapore?

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      limlim
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      Dora1:
      limlim:

      [quote=\"octoberbaby\"]One of our taiwanese friends got her PR few months after her arrival. She said her agent in Taiwan will handle all everything concerning Singapore Immigrations. She paid SIN$10,000.00 to get whole family PR status thru this Taiwanese agent.

      She came her, few mths later, bought HDB 4 room flat. Few months later she rent a master-bed room in condo. Rent out her 4-rm flat. She is a study-mama, husband doing china business.

      That is illegal for her case!

      Can lah last time resale MOP only 1 year mah. After that anything also can lah.[/quote]No. MOP means you cannot sell within that period.

      HDB flat owner must stay in the flat unless exceptional cases (need approval by HDB).

      Rent out room is okay but cannot rent out the whole flat. Owner MUST occupy it.

      They can buy as many private properties as they like, but own must stay in the HDB flat. This is HDB rule.

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        ponyo
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        limlim:


        No. MOP means you cannot sell within that period.

        HDB flat owner must stay in the flat unless exceptional cases (need approval by HDB).

        Rent out room is okay but cannot rent out the whole flat. Owner MUST occupy it.

        They can buy as many private properties as they like, but own must stay in the HDB flat. This is HDB rule.
        know of people around me (PR colleagues) circumventing that rule by locking up 1 room (so they are \"not\" renting out whole unit) and stay in private condo or at their own home in JB...

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          limlim
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          ponyo:
          limlim:



          No. MOP means you cannot sell within that period.

          HDB flat owner must stay in the flat unless exceptional cases (need approval by HDB).

          Rent out room is okay but cannot rent out the whole flat. Owner MUST occupy it.

          They can buy as many private properties as they like, but own must stay in the HDB flat. This is HDB rule.

          know of people around me (PR colleagues) circumventing that rule by locking up 1 room (so they are \"not\" renting out whole unit) and stay in private condo or at their own home in JB...

          We shd do our duty as vigilance citizens and report to HDB/authorities for the sake of fellow countryman hunting for a flat.. these foreigners are driving up the flat prices..

          HDB will have a way to investigate against those who flout the rules.

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            Dora1
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            Nope, after MOP can rent out whole flat also. This is applicable to SCs, and PRs until the recent cooling measure in Jan this year. Prior to this, they can rent out the whole flat after MOP just like SCs. So many HDB rental units, where are the owners staying? Of cos in their condos!


            Anyway, I know so many PR couples, where 1 of them convert to SC, so they bought new flats, and rent out while they went back to their home country to work. This is even during the MOP cos HDB allows renting out of HDBs during MOP if the whole family is posted overseas to work.

            That’s why the stats show that only a couple of thousands of PR renting out their flats. This actually excludes those where 1 spouse have converted.

            So actually the weakest link is allowing 1 of the PR couple to convert to SCs. All the cooling measures or whatever other measures will not work on these people who have the intention of abusing the system and cash in on the benefits. That’s why they should not allow only 1 spouse to convert. Want to convert both must convert together.

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              3Boys
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              WeiHan:
              goldfish2013:

              [quote=\"3Boys\"]You may have seen this before


              http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=8321


              Is Population Growth a Ponzi Scheme?

              The basic pitch of those promoting population growth is straightforward in its appeal: \"More is better.\" Joseph Chamie, who has spent a lifelong career as a demographer, including 12 years of service as the director of the United Nations Population Division, finds that more is not necessarily better.

              It really looks like we are falling into it.

              3boys is fast in reading Lucky Tan's blog nowaday which he used to dismiss as someone with an axe to grind with the government.[/quote]Harlo! I've not suddenly become a fan of him or agree just because of 1 issue! :spank:

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                keroppi
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                Dora1:
                Nope, after MOP can rent out whole flat also. This is applicable to SCs, and PRs until the recent cooling measure in Jan this year. Prior to this, they can rent out the whole flat after MOP just like SCs. So many HDB rental units, where are the owners staying? Of cos in their condos!

                Problem is HDB keeps tweaking their rules until everyone blur liao. As far as I know, now can liao. After MOP can rent out whole flat. PRs now left out of money-making HDB flat subletting business after the latest cooling measure.

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                  WeiHan
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                  3Boys:


                  Harlo! I've not suddenly become a fan of him or agree just because of 1 issue! :spank:
                  Not that you will admit even if you admire him secretly. But I was just saying that you have been reading his blog.

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                    3Boys
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                    WeiHan:
                    3Boys:



                    Harlo! I've not suddenly become a fan of him or agree just because of 1 issue! :spank:

                    Not that you will admit even if you admire him secretly. But I was just saying that you have been reading his blog.

                    I read TOC too, as a means of torturing myself.

                    And no, I have not been reading his blog, only when topics come up in discussions that reference his material.

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                      limlim
                      last edited by

                      keroppi:
                      Dora1:

                      Nope, after MOP can rent out whole flat also. This is applicable to SCs, and PRs until the recent cooling measure in Jan this year. Prior to this, they can rent out the whole flat after MOP just like SCs. So many HDB rental units, where are the owners staying? Of cos in their condos!


                      Problem is HDB keeps tweaking their rules until everyone blur liao. As far as I know, now can liao. After MOP can rent out whole flat. PRs now left out of money-making HDB flat subletting business after the latest cooling measure.

                      From what I'm aware, HDB never allowed subletting of whole flat unless there is prior approval from HDB where they'll evaluate your justifications to do so.

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                        hquek
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                        Umm, my understanding is that under current rules, HDB will allow for whole unit to be sublet as long as MOP is fulfilled. The tenancy and the names of tenants have to be registered - whether whole unit or room sublet.


                        In the past, it was more difficult to sublet the whole unit (have to write in for approval etc); but now just MOP fulfilled can already.

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