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Harrods\" post_id=\"2024034\" time=\"1621049992\" user_id=\"184010:

[quote=abc12454 post_id=2024000 time=1621007462 user_id=191892]Any parents with DS/DD having double offers wiling to share which schools they are inclining towards? My DS having hard time choosing as on one hand, he really likes the NTU’s TBL teaching style. On the other hand, NUS is established and seems more vibrant..Hope to receive some diverse opinions regarding which sch to choose

:congrats:

Was there before; even though skewed towards LKC, my ds accepted YLL at the very last day of deadline in teary eyes.

Chat with her again before sharing this.
Yes, LKC TBL is interesting way of learning and support within small group. YLL CG grouping is very similar concept and change grouping very year.
Truth is 2 seniors of my DS is still in LKC (going into yr4 & 5 this years); after all the sparks settled, it is all about studying med, as is with YLL...
We were told (not sure if it is correct), LKC med faculty is kind of isolated within NTU.
Novena site is interesting but a distance away and travel time in between is kind of inconvenience.
YLL is consolidated within NUS which is a good thing.

The vibrant thing; probably won't there to feel it now, since covid-19 killed all orientation programs.
We felt it in 2019, YLL med-rag was so impressive, changed our thoughts about med-students.
Very diverse combination in cohort, heard med-faculty topped most sport events before covid, year after year.
Bigger cohort, therefore the current & future social connection will be bigger.

As I mostly meet med students from YLL, I cant share what LKC is like.
Though YLL dont gives the good feel and vibe compared to LKC at this selection point, I can see that YLL med-students
are more than capable to self-motivate and achieve what they set out to do in the med-course.

Frankly, we are skewed to YLL from the start , wife & I just didn't impose that thought to ds.
Seeing ds completing 2nd year and going into 3rd year in YLL...I will say, not going with the LKC was not a lost.

Think...be a big fish in a big pond (~150) or bigger pond (~300).

After weeks of thinking hard, my DS finally decided on NUS. Was a tough decision to let go of NTU as my DS really enjoys the TBL system. In the end, he feels that NUS would be a more holistic environment to grow in.

Totally agree with you that we should all let our DS/DD make the tough decision on their own since as future doctors, they would have to make many more tough choices down the road. All we can do is to support them with whatever choice they make in the end 👍🏼 Either way, most important thing is to enjoy and fulfill the most of whichever med sch they choose!

Adding on, my DS will not be disrupting this year so all the best for those still waiting for their waitlist offers![/quote]Congrats ! again ...

Now that your ds has decided; next right thing to do is accept the offer from NUS.
In so doing, the offer from NTU will be freed, the waitlisted will get the offer...making another happy med-student.
We took too long in our time, accepting on last day...come to think about it, quite not necessary on our part... :stupid:
Other in waitlist is in pray-mode...

ALL the best from here on.

abc12454\" post_id=\"2024000\" time=\"1621007462\" user_id=\"191892:

Any parents with DS/DD having double offers wiling to share which schools they are inclining towards? My DS having hard time choosing as on one hand, he really likes the NTU’s TBL teaching style. On the other hand, NUS is established and seems more vibrant..Hope to receive some diverse opinions regarding which sch to choose

:congrats:

Was there before; even though skewed towards LKC, my dd accepted YLL at the very last day of deadline in teary eyes.

Chat with her again before sharing this.
Yes, LKC TBL is interesting way of learning and support within small group. YLL CG grouping is very similar concept and change grouping very year.
Truth is 2 seniors of my DD is still in LKC (going into yr4 & 5 this years); after all the sparks settled, it is all about studying med, as is with YLL...
We were told (not sure if it is correct), LKC med faculty is kind of isolated within NTU.
Novena site is interesting but a distance away and travel time in between is kind of inconvenience.
YLL is consolidated within NUS which is a good thing.

The vibrant thing; probably won't there to feel it now, since covid-19 killed all orientation programs.
We felt it in 2019, YLL med-rag was so impressive, changed our thoughts about med-students.
Very diverse combination in cohort, heard med-faculty topped most sport events before covid, year after year.
Bigger cohort, therefore the current & future social connection will be bigger.

As I mostly meet med students from YLL, I cant share what LKC is like.
Though YLL dont gives the good feel and vibe compared to LKC at this selection point, I can see that YLL med-students
are more than capable to self-motivate and achieve what they set out to do in the med-course.

Frankly, we are skewed to YLL from the start , wife & I just didn't impose that thought to dd.
Seeing dd completing 2nd year and going into 3rd year in YLL...I will say, not going with the LKC was not a lost.

Think...be a big fish in a big pond (~150) or bigger pond (~300).

achickennugget\" post_id=\"2023020\" time=\"1620367848\" user_id=\"192113:

Harrods\" post_id=\"2022968\" time=\"1620349872\" user_id=\"184010:

[quote=sgunited post_id=2022882 time=1620294826 user_id=192725]

Nus has perceived better reputation as it is the older school. But people on the ground now says NTU churn out better drs

Honestly, my daughter was sold and perceived LKC as the 1st choice in 2019.
Very warm and welcoming coupled with very new facilities both in NTU and Novena...
TBL was quite interesting, probably lots of opportunities for sharing knowledge within the group...

YLL is an establishment with >100 years of history.
It does not makes us felt as warn and welcoming as compared to LKC.
Their CG system (6 or more in a group) is similar to TBL.

LKC offered 1st, a week later, YLL offer came...Like some of you, receiving offers from both school means dilemma.
My daughter was kind of skewed towards LKC; Warm, welcoming, newer facilities, good vibes.
Wife and I skewed to YLL (We didn't expressed this to her); Its natural instinct.

After talking to families and friends; She accepted offer from YLL, despite her mind was skewing towards LKC.
That was a difficult choice, then.

We discussed strengths of these 2 schools over the weeks before deadlines to accept either offer.
Final decision is hers; either way, the same MBBS.
Progresses is really up to individual and what drives them beyond the 5 years in school...As parents, we will have little or no influence.

Over the past 2 years, she had truly enjoy her learning journey in YLL; the friends she met and made...still making and enjoying. Pre-covid, there are so many opportunity of local & overseas programs; sadly some plans were aborted since last year due to covid.

Forget about some hearsay that med school = not enough sleep or no social life.
I think her time in med school is far more interesting as compared to her JC time...

BTW, she did not opt to stay in hostel, which we are glad, very happening place even for med students.
Due to this fact, she best friends are also not staying in hostel...friends are very important factors, this I believed.

Dear Harrods,

Greatly appreciate your input, does your daughter have more input as to why she think YLL is the better choice? I heard from friends that NUS curriculum is starting to copy NTU curriculum and that NUS is slower to adopt more modern teaching styles. Also heard that NUS \"over-teach\" as compared to NTU.[/quote]LKC is very successful in selling 'good feeling about the school' to those attended their open-house, talk and tea-session...We liked the good vibes.
I am sure it has what it take to produce future doctors.

YLL has a long history...And still evolving and adapting necessary/good changes, that is good character of any great establishment, be it school, corporation, government...

As with any top school, is there any 'over-teaching' which ends badly...even yes, they are forgotten with the bigger & brighter pictures...this is the real world, sadly.
I 'heard' med-students at YLL comprises of 60-70% from the 2 top JCs, pretty well known for over-teaching and producing plenty of all-rounder years after years.

Medicine field are continuously making progress with new found technologies. What they learn today may not be 100% completely relevant when they start practicing years later...so the learning continue to be relevant in their chosen field/specialty.

My daughter made her choice; didn't sense any regret as she does well and the most important factor we think is...she is fortunate to have made and making good friends in these 2 years. Those that click, work/play hard and care a lot for each others... The course is demanding, so, always good to know that they are not alone.

She shared some negative experiences from time to time, just venting... No where is perfect, we guess.

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Harrods\" post_id=\"2022968\" time=\"1620349872\" user_id=\"184010:

Over the past 2 years, she had truly enjoy her learning journey in YLL; the friends she met and made...still making and enjoying. Pre-covid, there are so many opportunity of local & overseas programs; sadly some plans were aborted since last year due to covid.

Forget about some hearsay that med school = not enough sleep or no social life.
I think her time in med school is far more interesting as compared to her JC time...

BTW, she did not opt to stay in hostel, which we are glad, very happening place even for med students.
Due to this fact, she best friends are also not staying in hostel...friends are very important factors, this I believed.

Dear Harrod

Interesting views, but they are still views like opinion pieces in news papers. How can anybody know the difference if they have only experienced one system, may I ask? All said, whatever suits the child's learning needs. If world is moving to more empowering modes of learning... perhaps it is time to catch up.... wow... are we talking about cryptocurrency here? hahah :imsorry:

Oh yeah I remember you like to wear mask...

It is perfectly fine to have different views; it adds colors to thoughts.

We knew, no 1 system could cater to all.
As with any system; those blend/adapt into it will generally does better...

Either school yields MBBS, can't say 1 is better than the other.
As with our education system, top students in cohort will have better opportunity is specialize fields...Someone up there in the system is going to decide who gets into what...So, didn't think this lever of education would be mapping out of interest to suit the learning needs. Wait till you hear about the horror stories of attachment to hospitals and clinics from year 2...

sgunited\" post_id=\"2022882\" time=\"1620294826\" user_id=\"192725:

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2022866\" time=\"1620287789\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2022866 time=1620287789 user_id=58173]

Nus has perceived better reputation as it is the older school. But people on the ground now says NTU churn out better drs

Honestly, my daughter was sold and perceived LKC as the 1st choice in 2019.
Very warm and welcoming coupled with very new facilities both in NTU and Novena...
TBL was quite interesting, probably lots of opportunities for sharing knowledge within the group...

YLL is an establishment with >100 years of history.
It does not makes us felt as warn and welcoming as compared to LKC.
Their CG system (6 or more in a group) is similar to TBL.

LKC offered 1st, a week later, YLL offer came...Like some of you, receiving offers from both school means dilemma.
My daughter was kind of skewed towards LKC; Warm, welcoming, newer facilities, good vibes.
Wife and I skewed to YLL (We didn't expressed this to her); Its natural instinct.

After talking to families and friends; She accepted offer from YLL, despite her mind was skewing towards LKC.
That was a difficult choice, then.

We discussed strengths of these 2 schools over the weeks before deadlines to accept either offer.
Final decision is hers; either way, the same MBBS.
Progresses is really up to individual and what drives them beyond the 5 years in school...As parents, we will have little or no influence.

Over the past 2 years, she had truly enjoy her learning journey in YLL; the friends she met and made...still making and enjoying. Pre-covid, there are so many opportunity of local & overseas programs; sadly some plans were aborted since last year due to covid.

Forget about some hearsay that med school = not enough sleep or no social life.
I think her time in med school is far more interesting as compared to her JC time...

BTW, she did not opt to stay in hostel, which we are glad, very happening place even for med students.
Due to this fact, she best friends are also not staying in hostel...friends are very important factors, this I believed.

achickennugget\" post_id=\"2021798\" time=\"1619688358\" user_id=\"192113:

Dear All,

i just received my NTU's medicine offer, All the best to everyone!!

https://postimg.cc/VSm4XvDX

1st good news...Congratulation !

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Harrods\" post_id=\"2020097\" time=\"1618189973\" user_id=\"184010:

Just for understanding...
Out of the 20+ med students that I get to meet (smallsmall bigbig gathering at my place).
7 only apply 1 course (NUS/NTU med)...all says \"Only want to study med\", willing to take a gap-year
*2 already received offer from overseas med school; these 2 took-up the offer from NUS. (I guess is fee related)
*3 received double offer; all took-up with NUS (all accepted NUS on the very last day of offer closing date...so, some truth in waitlist moving faster in NTU)
*1 gets in on 2nd application while serving NS, 2 years older than the batch.

All from JCs and at least 8 are not perfect RP.
Among stories ..a young couple (friends of med-student), boy got into NTU, girl got double offers. the girl went to NTU. Many circumstances and scenario...

Are these med students that you meet from this year batch? the offers out already?

They are the batch from 2019 intake, ended yr 2, starting yr 3 soon.

During our time waiting for offer in 2019; learnt from some helpful parents, offer from NTU came around last week of Apr, and NUS came on 1st week of May.

Trust that all waiting for offer has prep and given 101% in effort; ALL THE BEST to the parents for supporting & co-starring this journey... :xedfingers:

Just for understanding…

Out of the 20+ med students that I get to meet (smallsmall bigbig gathering at my place).
7 only apply 1 course (NUS/NTU med)…all says "Only want to study med", willing to take a gap-year
*2 already received offer from overseas med school; these 2 took-up the offer from NUS. (I guess is fee related)
*3 received double offer; all took-up with NUS (all accepted NUS on the very last day of offer closing date…so, some truth in waitlist moving faster in NTU)
*1 gets in on 2nd application while serving NS, 2 years older than the batch.

All from JCs and at least 8 are not perfect RP.
Among stories …a young couple (friends of med-student), boy got into NTU, girl got double offers. the girl went to NTU. Many circumstances and scenario…

Chancc\" post_id=\"2019462\" time=\"1617603238\" user_id=\"121791:

hopefully many already faced FSA & SJT. as per kids its went well. hope to hear happy news from April end

Went well is great !
ALL the very best in this co-star journey...may the good news follow.
I look forward to hearing it.

Fact is; limited numbers of intake vs high numbers of qualified applicants. The precious place has to be given to the most worthy applicant by means of selection, thru interview/test with criteria other than academic.


We want to believe that the criteria of selection processes has been perfected over the years and committees are very well trained for the purpose. But, is expecting zero error from human realistic ? I think not…
We get to know a lot these days, compared to era before the surfacing of social medias and cyber news…
How many high profile individual falls from grace in recent time…think along this line.

Let’s agree to disagree.
Far too often, it is not ‘what’ we say, it is ‘how’ we say it…and even we ‘win’ something, we ‘lost’ something in the process. Everyone can have a different opinion, it depends on events revolving around us and the effects it has…

Have faith and accept the fact that there are imperfection in life…
Think positive and keep good thoughts.