Honestly, I don’t know how likely 4 pointers would face the horrid fate of balloting?


The top STEM specialists are already absorbed by NUSH. The top academically talented are absorbed by top schools via DSA.

I’m sure the experts will know how to manipulate this glut of 4-pointers by varying the difficulty level of your papers, e.g. plant two 5-mark killer Qns 16 & 17. Another careless mistake in Paper 1 MCQ, you drop to 88/100 and get 2 ALpoint.

They don’t need this sort of manipulation under the current system as the 99/100 scorer will already have a better transformed score than the 91/100 scorer.

They will have to work that stress thingy out since they want everyone to finish G level in 4 years.


Probably a few years later, some G1 or G2 students might be asked to repeat Sec 4, who knows. But we know they had no problem with the first few prototype batches when their students were allowed to take their strongest subjects at a higher level. Only time will tell.

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for those NA and NT students, currently studying inside these 25 Secondary pilot-run schools, anytime from now (2019) until 2023 (Total of 6 years), before actual island wide roll-out in year 2024, does it mean that they can graduate in 4 years, instead of 5 years' time, if they have been invited by the school to \"Upgrade\" and indeed they managed to upgrade successfully from G2 to G3, and from G1 to G2 ?

Inside their New Secondary school academic certificate issued, does it mean they won't print out the word, \"NA\" nor \"NT\" anymore, so that future employers (when they go out to work one day) will never know that they were once from Normal stream before ?

In contrast, those NA and NT students who have no (zero) chance to Upgrade, during these 6 years (2019 until 2023), because their Secondary schools did not participate in this pilot run, they will still continue to graduate in 5 years time and their Sec school certificate will still indicate clearly which stream they are from ?

All NA-NT-Express sec schools already have SBB.

Currently, NA/NT students will adjourn to Express classrooms for certain periods if they take O-level this or O-level that, but they are essentially still grouped in pure Normal classes (their home base).

Now they are taking a step further by reorganising everyone into the same class, e.g. 1 Happiness, progressively until 2024.

I believe come 2024, Sec 1 students (P2 now) will be able to take G123 courses and are the first to receive the new general certificate co-branded by MOE and Cambridge in 2027.

They cannot do this to the current Sec3 and Sec4 classes of the 25 pilot schools. The co-brand certification is still in the works and the rank point system for JAE isn't even out yet.

G level certificate should be the same as A level certificate with both brands printed at the top, plus detailed grades and corresponding levels H1, H2 or H3.

Employers look at the university or diploma certificate mostly.

25 should include the first 12 prototype schools:


Ang Mo Kio
Bedok Green
CHIJ St Joseph’s Convent
CHIJ St Theresa’s Convent
Jurong Sec
Jurong West
Pei Hwa
Ping Yi
Presbyterian High
Queenstown
St Patrick’s
Unity

The rest of 13 - pending, but guess may include those with CCA banding (Edgefield Sec).

Some P3-P6 parents are asking. Is it because they wish to avoid those schools, as they will be the first to undergo the changes (i.e. mixed ability classes) beginning next year?

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Pure G3 stream, whether in dual-track IP schools (Scgs, St Nick, Cedar Girls, Catholic High, Victoria Sec ) or in Non-IP schools (eg. SAP Anglian High, Chung Cheng High, Maris Stella High, Nan Hua High, Nan Chiau High, etc) stay, no change. They are not involved in pilot run testing. Students take the new National Common Exam, instead of take GCE O level. Tr will teach them the new exam format requirement & content. Pure G3 schools don't have G12 students

Must see the annual intake of G1,G2 pupils before 'generalising' all sec schools. Do we really have that many AL21 and above scorers per year? Also, must look at the cultural demographic of this small population, if you get what I mean.

I wonder why you show me the above. I already know and briefly mentioned these criteria on Pg 16.

I understand what phtthp is asking. She's asking what happens after the first 2 tiebreakers are exhausted (AL score first, then 1 - Citizenship; 2 - Choice ranking). There are 6 schools selected by you, so how many tie-breakers would you encounter by the time computer reaches your 6th choice?


MOE estimates 1 in 10 will be affected by such 'luck'. These students will then undergo computerised balloting, similar to what they do for JC, poly and ITE balloting.

You can ask your friends where their teens were eventually posted to, if all their JAE choices had not been successful. Is the final allocated institution far from his Post Code, or near the choice schools he had earlier picked in the JAE.

In this time and age, the computer does know where you live. Have you ordered from FoodPanda before? Just key in your Post Code and only those restaurants within your vicinity will be shown to you for picking.

Today is NUS Open House.

I don’t know if there’ll be a rush to cram into IP to avoid the G123. Maybe this is kiasuparents, so most parents only have eyes set for IP, but on the ground, at least, I know some parents are gradually changing their mindsets and are no longer so competitive. That’s after they learnt about some isolated IP failures, fixed partner schools, mental illness cases, teen suicides and so on.


But I’m guessing demand may go up for pure G3 schools like Maris Stella, Chung Cheng Main, Nan Hua, Nan Chiau, Anglican High. Some parents fear their (230-240ish) kids’ G3 standard will be ‘dumbed down’ or their kids may fall into negative company, etc.

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...
Streaming was brought up again by a lot of MPs and lobbylists, notably: Denise Phua, Inderjit Singh, Yee Jen Jong, Ang Wei Neng, Dr Intan. LKY's protege, Heng Swee Keat, was a cautious man. He told Mrs Phua he would give her proposal serious consideration and cautioned there would be significant policy and implementation issues for his ministry. Nonetheless, vanilla-lite SBB was formalised as vanilla SBB in 2014 in 12 prototype sec schools. N(A) and N(T) could take from Sec 1 higher level EL, MTL, MA and SC based on their PSLE subject grades.
...

You miss out Dr Tan Cheng Bock... 28 years ago, who calls for streaming to be abolished.
But seriously, it's a topic brought out by MPs from all colours and stripes, including 'lobbyists' like Dr Chee Soon Juan :siam:
OYK maybe the one to present it, but the seed is probably planted a long, long time ago.

Yes, quite a few of them. Dr Chee was in 1994; even more 'prophetic'! I also give credit to the watershed GE2011. WP Yee Jenn Jong was always asking education questions.

Anyway, these sorts of major policies require 'trialing' a few batches of students before implementation. It's not like a Minister can reverse entrenched policies just like that. Timing is perfect for OYK. But he should be reshuffled after next year's GE.

It's a welcomed policy change because I know some N(A) friends whose lives were drastically transformed after they were sentenced to Normal stream. Very hard for the salted fish to flip over for many years to come.

At least parents of 2024 PSLE students won't feel so stressed out when they go collect their PSLE results slips. They just look at their AL score, pick schools with the relevant G123 offerings and join a mixed ability class and blend in like others.

Parents won't feel so crushed because they can just tell relatives and colleagues their kids got into Express, and be comforted that there will be discreet channels for their children to upgrade to higher levels according to their strengths mid-way through secondary school (no relative need to know those little movements between G-levels), and then sit for O level to accumulate as many rank points as possible to apply for ITE, Poly or JC. In the past, it's like they'd receive a 'Life Sentence' on PSLE results day and get thrown into a Normal Cell for life.