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Therefore, your comment that 'EJC parents said' 'ALL subjects' were 'very good' is incorrect on 3 counts. No one is boasting here. Cheers.

Pg 73 , 1 parent said that \"I think EJC did very well\" and the more value added than other single digit JCs.

I see. Thanks. But that's 'relative' and judged from a grateful parent's perspective. If the parent thinks there's value-add, then there's value add.

Ong Ye Kung said if the student thinks his school is good, then that school is good. We've been advised to think the PAP way, so I'm not surprised that parent wrote what he did.

H2 Econs 48.x % is not too bad for a start. I was expecting 20% only.



I guess one needs to go back to COP of this Class to check the medians. DHS and RV’s highest tscore was over 270 back then. They hadn’t accepted any JAE students yet.

Like it or not (again you don’t have to agree with me), there’s some diff in capability between a 6-pointer versus a 10-pointer. A 10-pointer may have one B3 or B4 in his L1R5, and if that B4 happens to be his EL or Humanities, this candidate’s A level Humanities and GP will not be, erhm you know, …

Of course for 6-7-pointer, his EL and Humanities should be very strong at A1 or A2, so chances of him scoring well in his GP and contrasting Humanities subject (be it H1 or H2) will likely be pretty high.

My school had some 10+ pointers who came in because of sports so they got some point deduction and managed to get into commerce or arts (lower COP). Their final A level output viz the bulk of the remaining 2-6 pointers was quite different.

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Not 50% as shared.
Its 44.6% so is 45%.

EJ's 'at least 3H2 distinctions' is 4 in 10. But Principal didn't include mention of GP pass.
NYJC also has 4 in 10 of 'at least 3H2 distinctions + GP pass'. About the same as others in mommyng's table.



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Objectively speaking, EJC did rather well overall.

Speaking of EJC's 33% A in FMaths, do you happen to know if NYJC's FMaths (for that matter the entire suite of Science and Math subjects) is also '7 in 10' (>70%) As? We don't see RJC's FMath's performance unfortunately.

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Perhaps your students and parents can nominate these super tutors from the Science dept for President's Award for Teachers (PAT) next Jan. Bear in mind this JC doesn't attract Olympians if I'm not wrong.

33% As for FMaths is very good considering this IPJC has a disproportionate no of male students (pardon my assumption that males are better in FMath and higher).

Not sure about the std of its Humanities dept.[/quote]Ah Ma, you need to read more carefully before shoving words into EJ parents' mouths. It was I (pg 73) who used the superlative 'very good' but I used it not on ALL subjects, but only FMaths (primarily based on my own sexist prejudice, like it or not I do not care).

And for info, I also used another personal pronoun 'your', which I thought any primary school pupil should be able to infer author is not one of the EJC parents. Unfortunately, your #comprefail.

Therefore, your comment that 'EJC parents said' 'ALL subjects' were 'very good' is incorrect on 3 counts. No one is boasting here. Cheers.

‘Curious’ until you had to sneak into other JC’s hall on results day to snap pictures of other JC’s slides? I cannot believe this. But why? What are you trying to prove? Prove that your granddaughter made the right choice? I mean, good on her, but why aren’t you busy checking on NUS/NTU/SMU courses now?


It may not be as stellar as other top tier JCs’ results, but honestly, so what? You just want to gloat? I hope your granddaughter’s Principal who happens to read this can help to rein in his Grand-PSG. There are also some ‘retainees’ who don’t seem to have graduated after some 4-5 years. Are they jobless?

I don’t see RJ parents sneaking into HCI, or VJC parents sneaking into DHS like that. They are mature, dignified and classy parents. This is all so crass to me. I recall 2 years ago, one fanatic even sneaked into EJC Open House to look at the gym. Goodness, poor Eunoia. So many creepy and curious people stalking your JC.

Hi Grandyma

I think it's more important how your granddaughter did, rather than how other people's grandchildren or children did, isn't it?

I can totally understand why PSLE parents are checking out JCs' Mean UAS, subject combi as they're shopping for DSA-sec schools. I can also understand why parents of upper secondary school children are concerned about JC subject performances as they're going to pick combis or have already picked their combi and so are keen to suss out the standard of the seniors and respective depts' performance vz the national standard for planning purposes.

But for you whose granddaughter who was from Class of 2017, what is your main objective for doing this?

How did your granddaughter or daughter fare last year? Is she is one of the 1 in 7, or 1 in 5, as announced by her Principal? Is she happy with her results?

I put it to you that you're just feeling insecure, concerned that your granddaughter or daughter's A level cert value will drop if her JC is one day out-ranked or outperformed by another nearby JC.

Please rest assured, Ah Ma, that GCE Cambridge's As, Bs or Cs will not devalue even if your Singapore JC's Mean UAS drop or rise in the future. What's important is that your granddaughter or daughter gets into her desired university and gets a good job. Also, PSC, local unis look at her UAS, not which famous JC she comes from. Likewise, employers don't care about JC UAS or ranking. A humble person from a mid-tier JC with As/ Bs may sometimes get the job instead of another haughty person from a top-tier JC with straight As all his life.

So, please stop worrying about your granddaughter's JC potentially being eclipsed by other JCs in the unknown future. It's all based on free market forces. Some teens like newer campuses, others like later starting hour and 5-day PE attire. So respect their choices. Life is too short to worry about other minuscule statistics when one's offspring has already graduated. Too much sodium is no good for the elderly.

Did you see my personal assumption in my parenthesis regarding this JC’s lopsided demographic? You don’t have to agree with me.


Is 25% small? I don’t know what’s the percentage of JAE students absorbed by other IPJCs. May I know if their 25% JAE entrants of Class 2017 were single-pointers?

Aren’t the 75% full IP kids having around the same median T-scores as those absorbed by RV, NJ, DH, TJ? I have higher expectations for the latter 4, especially RV and DH with 100% IP, to perform better as they are more established and in situ for 6 years.

I suppose like you said the public will know if JCs are consistent as time goes by. No need to be too demanding on the pioneers, if you get what I mean. Manage your expectation and congratulate the newest kid on the block.

Why discriminate? Should include the long tail and the short tail of the whole curve to present to its graduating students, otherwise those JAE students in the hall would feel bad. It also wrongly signals to the world out there that JAE students (10-14 pointers before deduction) are the cause of lower Average Mean.


Incidentally, TJC’s Instagram in 2016 also used the same familiar line: "one of the few JCs…80 and above".

Traditionally/Culturally rich vs Nouveau riche?


Sounds derogatory to me. No wonder MOE needs to diversify the elites, rotate the principals, send Yr 3s to OBS to bond with the bourgeoise, and lower the DSA barriers to top IPJCs to promote social mobility. We need to snap out of this sort of mindset.

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I had dinner with my friends last night, one of them was a Chemistry teacher from RI...
He also said there were no fewer than 3 teachers that had left RI for EJC from the Science dept.[/quote]Perhaps your students and parents can nominate these super tutors from the Science dept for President's Award for Teachers (PAT) next Jan. Bear in mind this JC doesn't attract Olympians if I'm not wrong.

33% As for FMaths is very good considering this IPJC has a disproportionate no of male students (pardon my assumption that males are better in FMath and higher).

Not sure about the std of its Humanities dept.