Nanyang Girls' High School [*IP]
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HopefulOne:
The other day, one friend asked me whether the rumour that male teachers were also involved in the inspection was true. Sometimes, we don't need to believe word for word on whatever was posted on the internet like Instagram (or for that matter, public forums like this). For all we know, some of the accounts could be exaggerated or embellished? I say take postings on the internet with \"a pinch of salt\".A Friend checking up on NYGH for DSA this year asked me to read up about the recent spot check incident. Being a NYGH Sec 4 parent, I would like to share my views.
As mentioned in the above posts, we received an email from P on Thursday evening regarding a female’s teacher’s (Sec 4 Year Head) approach in conducting attire check (beginning of the week) that caused some girls to be uncomfortable. The attire check has been done by various teachers and the Year Head but she was so offensive which caused some girls to comment about it on Instagram. Many kids of other schools have learnt about it on Tuesday night. How offensive was it? I thought we will get the details during PTM on Friday. Nope, parents were told not to listen to what was being spread but at the same time, they did not address what did the teacher do in details either...
Yes, our school took measures immediately. On Thursday, the Year Head apologized to the Sec 4s, P issued an apology email in the same evening, she also addressed this matter first thing during the PTM on Friday and had individual meetings with some affected students and parents. We appreciate these really.
What’s next you may ask? They say they will continue to monitor. But here is the thing, since we are neither the victims nor their parents, we cannot simply ask people to not talk about this or simply have a closure or move on. For all you know, some victims or parents are afraid to come forward to speak to the school authority. Why? Because they are afraid their DD will be marked. Many questions popped up in my head when my DD told me about this incident. Why didn’t our 16 year old victims stop the Year Head? Why didn’t any of the classmates say something out loud to stop her when they feel that a teacher should not behave in that manner? Instead, they choose to rant on the Instagram and that’s how the news went viral. As a parent, I would like to know what will happen to the Year Head. This is because our girls spend most of their time in school. What caused the Year Head to behave like that? Don’t you want a safe environment for your child? If rules and regulations are in place for your child to adhere to, shouldn’t it be the same for the teachers / staff? Yes, I agree - give them time to resolve this. BUT please also bear this in mind, time will pass quickly and soon most people will forget about this matter and the victims.
When in doubt, you may wish to seek clarification with the school or drop the Principal an email, I am sure the P will be most willing to share the information with you. -
I applaud Mdm Ng for her immediate action and clear explanation in the email. But it really does not stop me from asking more questions.
We are all parents here who wants to share and learn from one another. My take away from this incident is why no girls dare to speak up ? It may not happen to my girl directly but we all have kids and feel for that particular girl. Even if she is 1 out of 1600 , it still warrants a concern as it violate her privacy.
So I talked to both my HCI and Sec 1 girls , both dare not say no to the teachers if it happened to them too. Have it occurred to you why they dare not say no although they have every right to ?
Neither you nor me represent all parents in this school , I am speaking from my own experience via my girls. There is always 2 sides of the coin and we are all free to state what we think. You can move on if you want but it is my prerogative to ask for that one extra SOP or actions to ensure no repetition.
PS. I am asking not because I do not hear my kids version. Actually like what Lee YL said, I was expecting an official version from sch. With 1,600 kids, we may have 1600 versions or less. During Sec 1 PTM , Mdm Ng mentioned she reads this forum too so I hope she picks this up. Thank you -
lee_yl:
Well, if the Instagram Posts written by the girls are not true, would the Year Head apologise? Was P’s email (with regrets) necessary? The girls ranted because they want their voices to be heard using another outlet (that they think is best) and it worked!The other day, one friend asked me whether the rumour that male teachers were also involved in the inspection was true. Sometimes, we don't need to believe word for word on whatever was posted on the internet like Instagram (or for that matter, public forums like this). For all we know, some of the accounts could be exaggerated or embellished? I say take postings on the internet with \"a pinch of salt\".
When in doubt, you may wish to seek clarification with the school or drop the Principal an email, I am sure the P will be most willing to share the information with you.
Not all teenagers share information with their parents. Parent-child relationship may not be at its best during teen years. So don’t ever take their words or posts for granted.
My point is still what’s next and not closure. Like what P said in her email, I will follow up with her directly. -
HopefulOne:
Are you saying that ALL the IG postings are truthful accounts?
Well, if the Instagram Posts written by the girls are not true, would the Year Head apologise? Was P’s email (with regrets) necessary? The girls ranted because they want their voices to be heard using another outlet (that they think is best) and it worked!lee_yl:
The other day, one friend asked me whether the rumour that male teachers were also involved in the inspection was true. Sometimes, we don't need to believe word for word on whatever was posted on the internet like Instagram (or for that matter, public forums like this). For all we know, some of the accounts could be exaggerated or embellished? I say take postings on the internet with \"a pinch of salt\".
When in doubt, you may wish to seek clarification with the school or drop the Principal an email, I am sure the P will be most willing to share the information with you.
Not all teenagers share information with their parents. Parent-child relationship may not be at its best during teen years. So don’t ever take their words or posts for granted.
My point is still what’s next and not closure. Like what P said in her email, I will follow up with her directly.
If you find that the P’s email did not provide ALL the details you need, you should take up her offer to engage her directly. -
This incident has been blown out of proportion. My gal is a Sec 4 student and she said only 1 gal was affected. And to answer Justice Bao’s question as to where the button was, fyi the button on Nygh uniform is on the shoulder area. Teachers check only coz of the colourful sports bra straps are visibly shown around the shoulder and collar area. It seems to be the trend now for teenagers to wear and show off their colorful garments. Sometimes the Nike sign can even be visible on the chest area beside the hongzi. Do parents think its acceptable?
The teacher concerned is a very good and responsible teacher. Every year I look forward to listen to her speech at the Parents-Teachers meeting. Sadly, she did not speak last friday. It is a loss to Nygh and our gals should the teacher concerned decided to leave the school. The principal has already apologised to the whole auditorium of parents. I hope parents & our gals will just forgive and move on. -
exhaustedmum:
My girl is in Sec 3, when I asked her abt the incidence, I am very surprised with her response. Myself being former MOE staff, this is not a case whereby P can just say close case and move forward. MOE HQ would have stepped in.This incident has been blown out of proportion. My gal is a Sec 4 student and she said only 1 gal was affected. And to answer Justice Bao's question as to where the button was, fyi the button on Nygh uniform is on the shoulder area. Teachers check only coz of the colourful sports bra straps are visibly shown around the shoulder and collar area. It seems to be the trend now for teenagers to wear and show off their colorful garments. Sometimes the Nike sign can even be visible on the chest area beside the hongzi. Do parents think its acceptable?
The teacher concerned is a very good and responsible teacher. Every year I look forward to listen to her speech at the Parents-Teachers meeting. Sadly, she did not speak last friday. It is a loss to Nygh and our gals should the teacher concerned decided to leave the school. The principal has already apologised to the whole auditorium of parents. I hope parents & our gals will just forgive and move on.
My observation for past one year showed under the current school leadership, teacher's work professionlism suffered when compared to previous P. -
wansuiye:
Hi Wansuiye
I added you.mummytree:
Hi Wansuiye, I tried PM you but can’t sure if you receive? Can you add me too?
Thank you very much .
Sent you a PM too. Please also add me to the chat group. Thanks in advance.
Kind regards -
Regarding the uniform check incident:
1. All current NYGH parents should hear it from their daughters the details and extra SOPs that was shared with the students in school. Though such details were not shared directly with the parents, I am sure we can all get the details from our own children. And if your daughter dont remember, then please feel free to approach the principal directly as what she has offered.
2. My own daughter (Sec3) felt that the principal and the school has handled this issue pretty swiftly and well. The fact that the teacher and principal apologised showed their sincerity in admitting a mistake and apologising for their mistake. This is the right approach and attitude that we should teach our children. My daughter in fact thought some students are disgruntled and unfair in their IG narration of what happened and the whole incident has been blown out of proportion and some of these students refused to move on (interestingly these students weren’t even directly affected).
For me and my daughter, this incident is considered closed. Principal and school has done well in handling this incident. I am assured that the same would not happen again. -
I am not a nygh parents. Sorry for writing here. I heard about the incident from my girl and out of curious just reading up the forum to find out what happened.
Not here to comment what’s right or wrong or to offend anyone. But one question raised by a parent/ forummer raises my attention. Why didn’t the girl or the classmates say no to the teacher? They are sec4 students, not sec1 girl who just entered the school and easily intimidated.
I think as parents, the only way to protect our children is to teach them to say no to advances that make them feel uncomfortable, even from people of authority or people that they respect or love. We have heard and read a lot about workplace harassment etc. To prevent them from becoming a victim in the future, we have to teach them to stand up for themselves. Say no, be firm. Ask to speak to higher authority if they need to and don’t be afraid. -
Actually, how can we be sure that sec 4 girl was THE victim in this whole incident?
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