Nanyang Girls' High School [*IP]
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octbride\" post_id=\"2000926\" time=\"1604184442\" user_id=\"1083:
From sec 1 to sec 3, MSG is calculated based on core subjects ie LA, HCL, Maths, Science, Geog and History. All the rest of the subjects are graded by not calculated into MSG. A1 - MSG 1, A2 - MSG 2 and so on. Final MSG is the mean of the score for the 6 core subjects.
Hi, is it most of the students able to continue IP program and what’s % of students that will be on O levels prog ?
Sorry for being ignorant, I just realize that need to have msg of 4.0 to continue in the program after receive the report book on Friday.
Is msg calculated using the average of subject grade and anyone can shed some light how the calculation is done ? Food studies and art etc have no scores at all.
I am not sure how many % each year has to do SIP. I do know that 2019 sec 1 - all promoted as per DD's form teacher. But this year, no such info. -
I think by Sec 3, most girls take 7-8 examinable subjects, so msg is calculated based on all 7 or 8 subjects? Eg, LA, HCL, IM1, IM2, IH, Chem, Physics, biology/lit/geog/history. There is usually one Sec 3 SIP class every year, so that’s about 20+ girls?
Swc\" post_id=\"2000927\" time=\"1604187452\" user_id=\"178585:
From sec 1 to sec 3, MSG is calculated based on core subjects ie LA, HCL, Maths, Science, Geog and History. All the rest of the subjects are graded by not calculated into MSG. A1 - MSG 1, A2 - MSG 2 and so on. Final MSG is the mean of the score for the 6 core subjects.octbride\" post_id=\"2000926\" time=\"1604184442\" user_id=\"1083:
Hi, is it most of the students able to continue IP program and what’s % of students that will be on O levels prog ?
Sorry for being ignorant, I just realize that need to have msg of 4.0 to continue in the program after receive the report book on Friday.
Is msg calculated using the average of subject grade and anyone can shed some light how the calculation is done ? Food studies and art etc have no scores at all.
I am not sure how many % each year has to do SIP. I do know that 2019 sec 1 - all promoted as per DD's form teacher. But this year, no such info. -
Thanks @mommyng and @swc
How to do well for history and geo? Any tutor for geo and history to recommend ? Is it true that nygh papers are much tougher than other schools ?
My daughter sec1 this year and she can’t gasp the concepts .. worries me as I don’t even know how to teach and just know that there is a msg computation 😰 -
octbride\" post_id=\"2000942\" time=\"1604194300\" user_id=\"1083:
For hist, there wasn’t any written test done in school at all. For geo, there was only one written test on term 3 which constitutes 20%. 60% of hist and geo is on the project (group and individual) done in September. Is she didn’t do well for these 2 subjects, maybe you can check is it the group or individual work section which pulled her grades down. For these 2 subjects, hardly any notes at all. When they were preparing for the term 2 geography test on transportation, I bought a guide from popular but not much use too. Also worried if they will have problem when doing actual written test and exam in school next year.
Thanks @mommyng and @swc
How to do well for history and geo? Any tutor for geo and history to recommend ? Is it true that nygh papers are much tougher than other schools ?
My daughter sec1 this year and she can’t gasp the concepts .. worries me as I don’t even know how to teach and just know that there is a msg computation 😰 -
newbieks\" post_id=\"2000943\" time=\"1604195352\" user_id=\"178749:
Hi, I’m a sec 2 (s3 next year) just lurking around for fun. For History, I would say the main thing in secondary 2 is to just grasp the answering technique well. There will be a few types of question asked (eg. purpose, utility, comparison) that your daughter will learn both in secondary 1 and 2. With practice, by the end of the year (History EOY) there shouldn’t be a large problem. There is also the 12m essay but that one is not tremendously hard to write, just know the rough format and the rest is just putting the relevant historical examples in.
For hist, there wasn’t any written test done in school at all. For geo, there was only one written test on term 3 which constitutes 20%. 60% of hist and geo is on the project (group and individual) done in September. Is she didn’t do well for these 2 subjects, maybe you can check is it the group or individual work section which pulled her grades down. For these 2 subjects, hardly any notes at all. When they were preparing for the term 2 geography test on transportation, I bought a guide from popular but not much use too. Also worried if they will have problem when doing actual written test and exam in school next year.octbride\" post_id=\"2000942\" time=\"1604194300\" user_id=\"1083:
Thanks @mommyng and @swc
How to do well for history and geo? Any tutor for geo and history to recommend ? Is it true that nygh papers are much tougher than other schools ?
My daughter sec1 this year and she can’t gasp the concepts .. worries me as I don’t even know how to teach and just know that there is a msg computation 😰
For Geography, next year will be about Physical Geography (i.e deforestation, climate, etc.) It is more content-heavy and info-based in Sec 2 because there will be more written tests. Taking notes in class helps a lot and I also annotate the slides on ipad what the teacher says. The textbook for Sec 2 will come in very handy for WAs and assessments. In EOY, it may seem daunting (it was for most of us) to complete so many questions and one 8m essay, but with a good grasp of the topics taught and with a bit of practice (e.g how is relief rain formed, causes of deforestation, adaptations of mangroves) one should be able to do well.
Overall, don’t be afraid to ask your daughter’s Geography & History teachers for consultations when she is unclear about concepts/answering techniques. Especially before EOYs where consultations come in handy, as the teachers may not mark past year papers in class but your daughter CAN ask the teachers for separate consultation session during lunch/recess/after school and they can sit down with her for 15 minutes-or-so and mark her paper and give comments on how to improve for the actual EOY. Wishing your daughter good luck for next year! -
octbride\" post_id=\"2000941\" time=\"1604194288\" user_id=\"1083:
DD did not make use of any outside guidebooks as she feels that the notes provided by the school are more than sufficient. However, for Geography, she does a fair bit of research on real-life case studies to supplement her school notes.
Thanks @mommyng and @swc
How to do well for history and geo? Any tutor for geo and history to recommend ? Is it true that nygh papers are much tougher than other schools ?
My daughter sec1 this year and she can’t gasp the concepts .. worries me as I don’t even know how to teach and just know that there is a msg computation 😰
Also, before eoy, after she practised answering past year papers, she will book consultation sessions with her teachers to get their feedback on her answers as well as clarify anything she was not sure of. She seems to find such sessions very useful. The sessions might not be individual coz teachers sometimes group a few into one session. You might want to ask your DD to seek help from teachers through such sessions. -
mommyNg\" post_id=\"2000937\" time=\"1604190878\" user_id=\"2838:
[/quote]Just to correct it - for S3, the MSG is calculated based on 8 or 9 subjects, not the 6 core subjects. Meaning if you opt for 9 subjects-combi in S3, you still must meet the promotion criteria of MSG 4.0, based on your 9 total subjects. So if you opt for 8 subjects-combi, you also must meet the promotion criteria of MSG 4.0 based on your 8 total subjects. But come to Sec 4, the promotion criteria to HCJC is based on L2R5, only 7 subjects, & must meet promotion criteria of MSG 3.0. So those taking 9 subjects still can choose which is the best grade to add in the L2R5 when come to S4. Of course the stake is higher in S3 if you have 9 or 10 subjects-combi, coz you are competing with those who take 8 subjects-combi, but meeting the same promotion criteria lo.
From sec 1 to sec 3, MSG is calculated based on core subjects ie LA, HCL, Maths, Science, Geog and History. All the rest of the subjects are graded by not calculated into MSG. A1 - MSG 1, A2 - MSG 2 and so on. Final MSG is the mean of the score for the 6 core subjects.
I think by Sec 3, most girls take 7-8 examinable subjects, so msg is calculated based on all 7 or 8 subjects? Eg, LA, HCL, IM1, IM2, IH, Chem, Physics, biology/lit/geog/history. There is usually one Sec 3 SIP class every year, so that’s about 20+ girls?Swc\" post_id=\"2000927\" time=\"1604187452\" user_id=\"178585:
[quote=octbride post_id=2000926 time=1604184442 user_id=1083]Hi, is it most of the students able to continue IP program and what’s % of students that will be on O levels prog ?
Sorry for being ignorant, I just realize that need to have msg of 4.0 to continue in the program after receive the report book on Friday.
Is msg calculated using the average of subject grade and anyone can shed some light how the calculation is done ? Food studies and art etc have no scores at all.
I am not sure how many % each year has to do SIP. I do know that 2019 sec 1 - all promoted as per DD's form teacher. But this year, no such info.
So grading, all subjects weightage are 1.0. A1: 75% abv; A2: 70-74%; B3: 65-69%; B4: 60-64%; C5: 55-59%; C6: 50-54; D7: 45-49%; E8: 40-44%; F9: 0-39%. Based on schools' WA1 (10%), WA2 (15%), WA3 (15%) (different % weightage for different level)--- 40% + 60% for EOY = Overall grade for each subject. Then total overall grade for all subjectis divided by the total subjects, will be the MSG for that year.
For instance, 8 subjects LA: A1, HCL: A2, Chem: B3, Phy: A1, Bio: B4, IM1 : A1, IM2: A1, Geo: B4.
(1+2+3+1+4+1+1+4 = 17/8 = 2.13 MSG
For 9 subjects LA: A1, HCL: A2, Chem: B3, Phy: A1, Bio: B4, IM1 : A1, IM2: A1, Geo: B4, Lit: A2
(1+2+3+1+4+1+1+4+2 = 19/9 = 2.11 MSG -
Octbride… i feel the same about History and Geography. It is not just the subjects but as a whole, the directions from the school are not clear too at times. For LA, they uploaded the past year exam paper close to 1 month before the eoy and the teacher told them the format of the exam a few weeks before when someone asked. Not sure if its normal for secondary schools… it s a big jump and the kids are expected to grasp quickly and understand well within a short time. This is probably the IP system but the jump is quite steep for aome. Really glad parents here are generous to ahare and I thought all these imformation should come from the achool to begin with. I had a one to one conervsation with their form teacher and somehow feel discussion is superficial.
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LeeTaiTai\" post_id=\"2000961\" time=\"1604208368\" user_id=\"17608:
I shared the same view as you previously with regards to humanities subjects. The school should put in effort in these subjects as well, or educate the teachers to be really passionate in teaching, give clear directions, or be more delicate to job in providing suggested response from past year exam qs (not last minute though), give handouts what sort of key words/answers or marking scheme they are looking at etc. Fixing consultations are like just rubbing the surface . Some \"specify\" teachers just gave students worksheets to do, expect to handout, but never mark & return forever. Funny. Don't suggest we bring up this matter to teachers. Students ask teachers for it, & the teachers kept \"forgetting\" it. So how to chase, & even bring up to teachers. Some teachers don't like parents to call or write to them, they will expect your dd to be independent & talk to them. But even if gals approach them, like what you say, is sort of superficial, never pinpoint.
Octbride.. i feel the same about History and Geography. It is not just the subjects but as a whole, the directions from the school are not clear too at times. For LA, they uploaded the past year exam paper close to 1 month before the eoy and the teacher told them the format of the exam a few weeks before when someone asked. Not sure if its normal for secondary schools.. it s a big jump and the kids are expected to grasp quickly and understand well within a short time. This is probably the IP system but the jump is quite steep for aome. Really glad parents here are generous to ahare and I thought all these imformation should come from the achool to begin with. I had a one to one conervsation with their form teacher and somehow feel discussion is superficial.
Just to share personal opinions, passionate teacher will have a great impact on the students. I understand teaching is not a easy job, but just feel that ever since dd in S1 till S3, the teachers from HCL, Science & Math dept are doing a great job!! I hope the school can invest equally & support given for all subjects to provide holistic education to the students!? -
Hi leetaitai and ganjiongspider
Thanks for feedback. I asked my dd how did the teacher assess and shared the same sentiment as well.
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