Nanyang Girls' High School [*IP]
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Ganjiongspider\" post_id=\"2043272\" time=\"1634821341\" user_id=\"102810:
I am not too sure since my girl is not in any special program. What I do know is that the IP students will start sch 2 weeks earlier than the Os and during those times there are briefings on these specials and selection tests follow suit. Your dd can find out more during those briefings. JC curriculum esp Science is very different from secondary. What I have heard (you need to verify) is that SMTP/GATE students are self taught the H2 syllabus as they are most likely to be taught H3/uni level science.
Understand that for students to be eligible in SMTP/GATE at Hwa Chong JC, the subject requirement are IP results < 2.0 & excel in selection test. But before that, one must consistently excel in either 2 Math or Science subject (SMTP); or 1 Math/Science (GATE). So does it mean as in high A1for each test & exam? Or overall for that particular subject? What is the range 80%, 85% or 90% and above that are considered excel in the subject? -
Ganjiongspider\" post_id=\"2043272\" time=\"1634821341\" user_id=\"102810:
Dd is in GATE program. If your daughter is invited to join the program (DSA), then be sure that it is a good fit for her. Otherwise, mostly the students that meet the criteria will take the selection tests and the school will make use of both the performance in the selection tests as well as the students’ school examination performance to make a holistic decision on accepting the student into the program or not. As for the way of learning in the program, it depends on which SMTP/GATE class you are allocated because the extensions are mostly done by teachers so they will pace the extensions according to the class’s performance. For instance, my Dd is in GATE Chemistry, in this case she takes the biology lectures with other classes but she does not take the chemistry ones with the cohort. Instead, her teacher will guide them through the topics briefly and extend where he sees it applicable.
Understand that for students to be eligible in SMTP/GATE at Hwa Chong JC, the subject requirement are IP results < 2.0 & excel in selection test. But before that, one must consistently excel in either 2 Math or Science subject (SMTP); or 1 Math/Science (GATE). So does it mean as in high A1for each test & exam? Or overall for that particular subject? What is the range 80%, 85% or 90% and above that are considered excel in the subject? -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2043297\" time=\"1634860464\" user_id=\"2358:
Imp75,
I am not too sure since my girl is not in any special program. What I do know is that the IP students will start sch 2 weeks earlier than the Os and during those times there are briefings on these specials and selection tests follow suit. Your dd can find out more during those briefings. JC curriculum esp Science is very different from secondary. What I have heard (you need to verify) is that SMTP/GATE students are self taught the H2 syllabus as they are most likely to be taught H3/uni level science.Ganjiongspider\" post_id=\"2043272\" time=\"1634821341\" user_id=\"102810:
Understand that for students to be eligible in SMTP/GATE at Hwa Chong JC, the subject requirement are IP results < 2.0 & excel in selection test. But before that, one must consistently excel in either 2 Math or Science subject (SMTP); or 1 Math/Science (GATE). So does it mean as in high A1for each test & exam? Or overall for that particular subject? What is the range 80%, 85% or 90% and above that are considered excel in the subject?
Thanks. I pressume as well, that those special programmes are taught in H3/uni more advanced level. I would prefer dd to just take normal 4H regular subjects, rather than taking up another talent or special programmes, just to ensure that it is more manageable for her. However, at the same time, I hate to dissuade her the thing that she is looking forward to. Like I am demotivating her? Sigh....what a dilemma! :lightrod: It has a great transformation of her from Humanities to STEM subjects, with IM1 & IM2 consistently high A out of other Humanities subjects. But I am also aware H2 is even harder than secondary level, not to mention SMTP/GATE. But you know lah, now getting back the results, she sort of getting from her peers' influence to be in any of the special programmes next year. -
Ganjiongspider\" post_id=\"2043355\" time=\"1634887357\" user_id=\"102810:
Imp75,
I am not too sure since my girl is not in any special program. What I do know is that the IP students will start sch 2 weeks earlier than the Os and during those times there are briefings on these specials and selection tests follow suit. Your dd can find out more during those briefings. JC curriculum esp Science is very different from secondary. What I have heard (you need to verify) is that SMTP/GATE students are self taught the H2 syllabus as they are most likely to be taught H3/uni level science.Imp75\" post_id=\"2043297\" time=\"1634860464\" user_id=\"2358:
[quote=Ganjiongspider post_id=2043272 time=1634821341 user_id=102810]Understand that for students to be eligible in SMTP/GATE at Hwa Chong JC, the subject requirement are IP results < 2.0 & excel in selection test. But before that, one must consistently excel in either 2 Math or Science subject (SMTP); or 1 Math/Science (GATE). So does it mean as in high A1for each test & exam? Or overall for that particular subject? What is the range 80%, 85% or 90% and above that are considered excel in the subject?
Thanks. I pressume as well, that those special programmes are taught in H3/uni more advanced level. I would prefer dd to just take normal 4H regular subjects, rather than taking up another talent or special programmes, just to ensure that it is more manageable for her. However, at the same time, I hate to dissuade her the thing that she is looking forward to. Like I am demotivating her? Sigh....what a dilemma! :lightrod: It has a great transformation of her from Humanities to STEM subjects, with IM1 & IM2 consistently high A out of other Humanities subjects. But I am also aware H2 is even harder than secondary level, not to mention SMTP/GATE. But you know lah, now getting back the results, she sort of getting from her peers' influence to be in any of the special programmes next year.[/quote]Did she take any advanced subjects or was in any special programs in nygh? My understanding is that her performance in advanced subjects would he a good gauge of how she would perform for HCI special programs. -
Dawn Ng\" post_id=\"2043316\" time=\"1634870674\" user_id=\"469:[quote=\"Dawn Ng\" post_id=2043316 time=1634870674 user_id=469]
Hi Dawn,Ganjiongspider\" post_id=\"2043272\" time=\"1634821341\" user_id=\"102810:Dd is in GATE program. If your daughter is invited to join the program (DSA), then be sure that it is a good fit for her. Otherwise, mostly the students that meet the criteria will take the selection tests and the school will make use of both the performance in the selection tests as well as the students’ school examination performance to make a holistic decision on accepting the student into the program or not. As for the way of learning in the program, it depends on which SMTP/GATE class you are allocated because the extensions are mostly done by teachers so they will pace the extensions according to the class’s performance. For instance, my Dd is in GATE Chemistry, in this case she takes the biology lectures with other classes but she does not take the chemistry ones with the cohort. Instead, her teacher will guide them through the topics briefly and extend where he sees it applicable.
Is your dd this year JC1 or JC 2 at HC? From your opinion, is the GATE programme manageable- how much time, individual/group research, projects are involved? Can the student withdraw from the programme in the event cannot cope with it? My dd is not under DSA, as she is S4 @ NYGH promoting to HCJC next year. Currently the school is sending emails about all kinds of scholarships & special programmes to apply. I am more worried the tougher part of learning experience once she is in any of the programmes , as it is more fast paced & advanced. :faint: I am also not so sure if she is really a good fit even if she gets through the criterial/selection test. She always have that sudden motivation & enthusiasm in something, but hard to stay through.
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Swc\" post_id=\"2043360\" time=\"1634888224\" user_id=\"178585:
Did she take any advanced subjects or was in any special programs in nygh? My understanding is that her performance in advanced subjects would he a good gauge of how she would perform for HCI special programs.[/quote]Hi Swc,
Imp75,Ganjiongspider\" post_id=\"2043355\" time=\"1634887357\" user_id=\"102810:
[quote=Imp75 post_id=2043297 time=1634860464 user_id=2358]
I am not too sure since my girl is not in any special program. What I do know is that the IP students will start sch 2 weeks earlier than the Os and during those times there are briefings on these specials and selection tests follow suit. Your dd can find out more during those briefings. JC curriculum esp Science is very different from secondary. What I have heard (you need to verify) is that SMTP/GATE students are self taught the H2 syllabus as they are most likely to be taught H3/uni level science.
Thanks. I pressume as well, that those special programmes are taught in H3/uni more advanced level. I would prefer dd to just take normal 4H regular subjects, rather than taking up another talent or special programmes, just to ensure that it is more manageable for her. However, at the same time, I hate to dissuade her the thing that she is looking forward to. Like I am demotivating her? Sigh....what a dilemma! :lightrod: It has a great transformation of her from Humanities to STEM subjects, with IM1 & IM2 consistently high A out of other Humanities subjects. But I am also aware H2 is even harder than secondary level, not to mention SMTP/GATE. But you know lah, now getting back the results, she sort of getting from her peers' influence to be in any of the special programmes next year.
Dd didn't apply for any advanced Math/Science subjects last year, as she's more interested in Humanities during that time. She did pass her selection test & was offered Humanities Programme last year. But she did not take up the offer as I wanted her to have a mixed of Art/Science subjects, rather HP which has more Humanities subjects. But she did successfully went through the MOE HSSRP Mentorship last year and was awarded the certificate from MOE. This year Sec 4, she suddenly takes more interest on Math, and IM1&IM2 are her strongest subjects as compared to Sec 3. Thus, to me, it seems difficult to gauge how she would perform for HCI special programs. As the saying goes, \"interest is the best teacher\". If her interest suddenly change again, then die lo! :imdrowning: -
Dd was in gate bio but it was pre-covid times when she first joined it, so I am not sure what could have changed.
The school will provide the updated information on what the program entails and commitment (if any) in the briefings.
Btw, my girl signed up for the “sample lesson” back then.
If your girl is interested after the briefings and sample lesson, just go for the selection test. The school will do the necessary to assess the student.
Don’t know how much of it is still valid as of now but commitments during dd’s time:- some self-study is required, electives in the form of workshops/seminars/learning journeys were conducted in the thursday afternoons, have to do research and participate in smtp/gate fair, you are not allowed to withdraw from the program nor are the students allowed to drop from 4H2 to 3H2.
The students were free to choose electives that were available to all the students in the smtp/gate program, unless it was explicitly stated otherwise that certain pre-requisite was required for these electives.
So you can be in gate biology class and choose an elective workshop on chemistry of coffee or cosmetics, workshop on unmanned technologies (drones), visit and tour the Institute of High Performance Computing, something like that.
She doesn’t regret joining the program. All the best! -
Ganjiongspider\" post_id=\"2043361\" time=\"1634888913\" user_id=\"102810:
Dawn Ng\" post_id=\"2043316\" time=\"1634870674\" user_id=\"469:[quote=\"Dawn Ng\" post_id=2043316 time=1634870674 user_id=469]
Hi Dawn,
Is your dd this year JC1 or JC 2 at HC? From your opinion, is the GATE programme manageable- how much time, individual/group research, projects are involved? Can the student withdraw from the programme in the event cannot cope with it? My dd is not under DSA, as she is S4 @ NYGH promoting to HCJC next year. Currently the school is sending emails about all kinds of scholarships & special programmes to apply. I am more worried the tougher part of learning experience once she is in any of the programmes , as it is more fast paced & advanced. :faint: I am also not so sure if she is really a good fit even if she gets through the criterial/selection test. She always have that sudden motivation & enthusiasm in something, but hard to stay through.My Dd is in JC1 at HC. According to my Dd, the GATE program is generally manageable. In fact, it stretches them well and appropriate because in the Covid times now, they no longer have electives to go out of school to learn different things. Instead, the enrichment is mostly done by the teachers allocated to the class during their explanations or lecturing in class. So in that sense, it’s more flexible. As for research project, they have a compulsory one called the SMTP-GATE project where they have to come up with an area of interest and produce a research report on that. This project will be graded and replaces 5% of your entire year’s grade. There will be curriculum time allocated on a Thursday every 2 weeks in my DD’s case where time is blocked out for them to do the project, so managing the commitment level wise, it is still alright. You are not allowed to withdraw from the program if you cannot cope. Generally, if the school selects your Dd, it should mean that coping in the SMTP-GATE program shouldn’t be too much of an issue. My DD’s CT is pretty confident none of them in her class has issues coping, all are coping decently well. But how well you would define as coping well would depend on individual levels’ commitment in other areas such as leadership / CCA / SL project as well as the individual’s expectation level. Learning is mostly self paced and a lot of independent studying, pace is usually manageable but if the class is faster then the pace will be faster. Hope this helps. My Dd doesn’t regret joining. Met a bunch of supportive and like-minded classmates so it’s pretty amazing. Just continue coping til JC2 -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2043258\" time=\"1634810801\" user_id=\"2358:
IM1 or IM2? My girls did better in IM1 than IM2. Regardless, my girls said many friends didn't do well for both IMs.[/quote]IM2. She hasn’t gotten back her IM1 yet. Now you said many didn’t do well for both IMs, I think I am not v hopeful now.
My DD2 took back her math paper today, alas, she didn’t do well as I expected.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2043222\" time=\"1634802780\" user_id=\"17023:
[quote=Imp75 post_id=2043130 time=1634779757 user_id=2358]
I guess you are right really depends on individuals. My girls friends who took history said was OK and scored A. -
lego\" post_id=\"2043367\" time=\"1634894747\" user_id=\"11821:
Thanks for the feedback, Lego. The program does look enriching. And yes, dd will go attend the briefing & see how it goes. :xedfingers:
Dd was in gate bio but it was pre-covid times when she first joined it, so I am not sure what could have changed.
The school will provide the updated information on what the program entails and commitment (if any) in the briefings.
Btw, my girl signed up for the “sample lesson” back then.
If your girl is interested after the briefings and sample lesson, just go for the selection test. The school will do the necessary to assess the student.
Don’t know how much of it is still valid as of now but commitments during dd’s time:- some self-study is required, electives in the form of workshops/seminars/learning journeys were conducted in the thursday afternoons, have to do research and participate in smtp/gate fair, you are not allowed to withdraw from the program nor are the students allowed to drop from 4H2 to 3H2.
The students were free to choose electives that were available to all the students in the smtp/gate program, unless it was explicitly stated otherwise that certain pre-requisite was required for these electives.
So you can be in gate biology class and choose an elective workshop on chemistry of coffee or cosmetics, workshop on unmanned technologies (drones), visit and tour the Institute of High Performance Computing, something like that.
She doesn’t regret joining the program. All the best!
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