National Junior College (Junior High)
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kiasuson:
NJC has a great Alunmi network. Imagine the number of President scholars it produced and also the number of minister and top civil servant it has. They are also the first JC in Singapore.
But their president scholars come from other secondary schools and many feel stronger affiliation to their secondary schools than to NJC. Moreover, it has stopped producing president scholars for so many years-what they call \"president scholars drought'. -
WeiHan:
Moreover, it has stopped producing president scholars for so many years-what they call \"president scholars drought'.
As of 2008, NJC has not produced a President's Scholar for 12 years running, the last being Lee Chen Ee in 1996. This is the longest President Scholar drought faced by the college, the second-longest being a 3-year drought from 1993-1996. -
Vanilla Cake:
If you look at the history and analyse, they basically lost up to the IP schools because they do not have strong affialation to any secondary schools. I think their new IP scheme to start from Sec 1 will help them to secure some top students. It will take some time for them. I always believe in the Alunmi network. Look at how the schools with strong Alunmi network survive and properous.WeiHan:
Moreover, it has stopped producing president scholars for so many years-what they call \"president scholars drought'.
As of 2008, NJC has not produced a President's Scholar for 12 years running, the last being Lee Chen Ee in 1996. This is the longest President Scholar drought faced by the college, the second-longest being a 3-year drought from 1993-1996. -
kiasuson:
If you look at the history and analyse, they basically lost up to the IP schools because they do not have strong affialation to any secondary schools. I think their new IP scheme to start from Sec 1 will help them to secure some top students. It will take some time for them. I always believe in the Alunmi network. Look at how the schools with strong Alunmi network survive and properous.[/quote]They already lose out for many years. After the IP programme was introduced, the college fear losing even more. Therefore it is a very wise step for them to start taking IP students from year 1. I suspect in the end, it is the teacher's quality that is going to attract students, not anything else. In this aspect, schools like NJC, RV, Dunman high will lose out since they have no autonomy to employ any teachers they want. And if certain teacher don't fit well into the school, it is also harder for the principal to get the MOe and post him/her out.Vanilla Cake:
[quote=\"WeiHan\"]Moreover, it has stopped producing president scholars for so many years-what they call \"president scholars drought'.
As of 2008, NJC has not produced a President's Scholar for 12 years running, the last being Lee Chen Ee in 1996. This is the longest President Scholar drought faced by the college, the second-longest being a 3-year drought from 1993-1996. -
WeiHan:
Not sure about the teacher quality in those schools. My son is in a Indepent IP School. So far, I am happy with the teachers and trust them more than the primary school teachers. We can see the differences.
They already lose out for many years. After the IP programme was introduced, the college fear losing even more. Therefore it is a very wise step for them to start taking IP students from year 1. I suspect in the end, it is the teacher's quality that is going to attract students, not anything else. In this aspect, schools like NJC, RV, Dunman high will lose out since they have no autonomy to employ any teachers they want. And if certain teacher don't fit well into the school, it is also harder for the principal to get the MOe and post him/her out. -
kiasuson:
That is why RI/RGS/HCI/Nanyang are having a edge over RV and Dunman high. The independent schools can employ their own teachers. It is also obvious the students/teachers ratio is better in the independent schools. NJC is doing some funny thing...they also depend solely on the goverment for resources but they manage to reduce the students/teacher ratio for the direct yr 1 IP batch. How is this so? You think about it...they are sacrificing the other part ( a large part) of the college. Well...this is call elitism.
Not sure about the teacher quality in those schools. My son is in a Indepent IP School. So far, I am happy with the teachers and trust them more than the primary school teachers. We can see the differences.WeiHan:
They already lose out for many years. After the IP programme was introduced, the college fear losing even more. Therefore it is a very wise step for them to start taking IP students from year 1. I suspect in the end, it is the teacher's quality that is going to attract students, not anything else. In this aspect, schools like NJC, RV, Dunman high will lose out since they have no autonomy to employ any teachers they want. And if certain teacher don't fit well into the school, it is also harder for the principal to get the MOe and post him/her out. -
Hi weihan, what is the students/teachers ration in those independent IP schools ?
Don’t forget about the fees charge by the independent IP schools .Its almost 10 times more than the non-independent ones. -
daisyt:
I don't have the exact ratio but certainly they have much more teachers. Schools fees 10X more doesn't necessarily mean that you get 10 times better quality because the government is also pumping big resources into RV/Dunman and NJC but they still lose by small hair line to RI/HCI. If RI/HCI faimily having so much resource and autonomy still cannot beat, then finish liao....and then, independent schools always can employ a few more admin staffs to help teachers relief of their workload.....I have a colleague whose husband use to teach in NJC but resigned recently because the school always load him with 'this and that\" which are not related to delivering quality teaching. The independent schools can always reduce such problems and make the teachers more happy and deliver better teachings.Hi weihan, what is the students/teachers ration in those independent IP schools ?
Don't forget about the fees charge by the independent IP schools .Its almost 10 times more than the non-independent ones.
But RV and Dunman also have some very good teachers...that is why they are what they are despite government school status. -
hi weihan, from my brief findings , the ratio are not much difference in Independent or non-independent IP. Average 30 to 33.
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kiasuson:
Hi kiasuson, difference in which area ?
Not sure about the teacher quality in those schools. My son is in a Indepent IP School. So far, I am happy with the teachers and trust them more than the primary school teachers. We can see the differences.
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