Application for NUS/NTU Medicine 2024/2025
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leongyicheng75\" post_id=\"2133385\" time=\"1714919920\" user_id=\"204501:
Definitely pros and cons of having live lecturer classes vs pre-recording.
Thank you Skyblue, I think seeing the lecturer in person would help with engagement and understanding compared to staring at a screen. But getting to rewatch lectures also has its own benefits.
Not really sure what my DD prefers, but I will let her know of this.
I have seen students nodding off or doing their own things sneakily on laptops in live lectures. The room sometimes are so full to brim on the core subjects that you do not get one on one with the lecturer anyway.
Can you imagine how a class filled with 100s or 200s of students feel? Sometimes it can be very disruptive.
It all boils down to the focus and motivation the students themself have.
I believe med students will not lack in self-motivation; else they will not choose this career.
With spending around 2 years in COVID environment, there is lot of acceptance on online lessons and pre-recordings.
DD prefers the NTU style, where she gets a chance to view the course content upfront - run it through at her own pace. Come to class prepared and then spend time in a group to discuss the content and then focus on problem solving. They are not bound by hardcore need to be present in a class physically and can decide how to balance their own workload.
This method - will drive self-reliance and independent research, while fostering teamwork with group members during TBL session which is moderated by lecturers. -
I hope child will be able to go in to both and experience for himself. The timings on 11 May do make it seem impossible to give each full due diligence.
What DS knows is - almost every senior who could choose regretted in a way not choosing LKC. However, they will laugh it off to just make best of it and focus on the positives cause opportunities are what you make of it. The regrets come primarily from welfare, culture and breathing space. Also, I believe LKC wants to immerse the new students to adjust well as doctors so clinicals and soft skills are incorporated very early on.
Meanwhile, YLL believes they have already sussed out all soft skills so less training is needed. Again, there is no good or bad. , just about fit and Individual personalities or traits which can benefit more from which culture.
YLL also has strong history while LKC is more accepting since it is pioneering. One senior summed it up as do you want to grow into the school or do you want to grow with the school ?
More importantly, I spoke to my friends who are teaching consultants for both - they take both clinical rotations at their hospitals ( diff days of the same week). They said no discernible difference in school “products” , at the ground it is the individual performance that is key. YLL are confident , LKC are well adjusted.
Also, talk to allied health as they are the ones who see these students “unmasked”. Head of allied health professor in one of the healthcare clusters told me over the weekend they prefer LKC as they are kinder and more team based. Could be unique to this one opinion so I encourage we all talk to more to get a better sense. Many are not aware that junior doctors have to work with nurses and allied health to actually succeed in their initial years. Burnout And mental health issues are real !
Whatever school, I am sure they have have seen something that was a fit or potential to be the type of doctor they want to grow. The key now is which will bring out the best and keep the learning journey happy and motivating? -
lucid\" post_id=\"2133395\" time=\"1714955861\" user_id=\"14312:
Thank you Lucid for sharing your thoughts and conversations with people who see our the med school grads in action.
I hope child will be able to go in to both and experience for himself. The timings on 11 May do make it seem impossible to give each full due diligence.
What DS knows is - almost every senior who could choose regretted in a way not choosing LKC. However, they will laugh it off to just make best of it and focus on the positives cause opportunities are what you make of it. The regrets come primarily from welfare, culture and breathing space. Also, I believe LKC wants to immerse the new students to adjust well as doctors so clinicals and soft skills are incorporated very early on.
Meanwhile, YLL believes they have already sussed out all soft skills so less training is needed. Again, there is no good or bad. , just about fit and Individual personalities or traits which can benefit more from which culture.
YLL also has strong history while LKC is more accepting since it is pioneering. One senior summed it up as do you want to grow into the school or do you want to grow with the school ?
More importantly, I spoke to my friends who are teaching consultants for both - they take both clinical rotations at their hospitals ( diff days of the same week). They said no discernible difference in school “products” , at the ground it is the individual performance that is key. YLL are confident , LKC are well adjusted.
Also, talk to allied health as they are the ones who see these students “unmasked”. Head of allied health professor in one of the healthcare clusters told me over the weekend they prefer LKC as they are kinder and more team based. Could be unique to this one opinion so I encourage we all talk to more to get a better sense. Many are not aware that junior doctors have to work with nurses and allied health to actually succeed in their initial years. Burnout And mental health issues are real !
Whatever school, I am sure they have have seen something that was a fit or potential to be the type of doctor they want to grow. The key now is which will bring out the best and keep the learning journey happy and motivating?
Very insightful and hopefully will give food for thought to prospective students and parents with double offers.
I have shared your response with my DD. She will extreme happy and content to read it.
Indeed med, like any other profession is a team based work. No doctor can be successful on his own merit alone unless he/she is support by the lovely nursing team and allied health professionals. -
lucid\" post_id=\"2133395\" time=\"1714955861\" user_id=\"14312:
I hope child will be able to go in to both and experience for himself. The timings on 11 May do make it seem impossible to give each full due diligence.
What DS knows is - almost every senior who could choose regretted in a way not choosing LKC. However, they will laugh it off to just make best of it and focus on the positives cause opportunities are what you make of it. The regrets come primarily from welfare, culture and breathing space. Also, I believe LKC wants to immerse the new students to adjust well as doctors so clinicals and soft skills are incorporated very early on.
Meanwhile, YLL believes they have already sussed out all soft skills so less training is needed. Again, there is no good or bad. , just about fit and Individual personalities or traits which can benefit more from which culture.
YLL also has strong history while LKC is more accepting since it is pioneering. One senior summed it up as do you want to grow into the school or do you want to grow with the school ?
More importantly, I spoke to my friends who are teaching consultants for both - they take both clinical rotations at their hospitals ( diff days of the same week). They said no discernible difference in school “products” , at the ground it is the individual performance that is key. YLL are confident , LKC are well adjusted.
Also, talk to allied health as they are the ones who see these students “unmasked”. Head of allied health professor in one of the healthcare clusters told me over the weekend they prefer LKC as they are kinder and more team based. Could be unique to this one opinion so I encourage we all talk to more to get a better sense. Many are not aware that junior doctors have to work with nurses and allied health to actually succeed in their initial years. Burnout And mental health issues are real !
Whatever school, I am sure they have have seen something that was a fit or potential to be the type of doctor they want to grow. The key now is which will bring out the best and keep the learning journey happy and motivating?
Thanks for your info.
As a parent's point of view and will discuss with our kid is our concern of ranking of university and long story of university. What do you think? -
I think parents have not heard of interdisciplinary courses that LKCMedicine students need to take. They WILL mix with students from other schools.
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0548ling\" post_id=\"2133401\" time=\"1714962720\" user_id=\"15306:
Yes. If we come to that , then for prestige and heritage, he should take the Oxbridge offer with secured scholarship!
Thanks for your info.
As a parent's point of view and will discuss with our kid is our concern of ranking of university and long story of university. What do you think?
At their age, I see our roles as facilitators to help them make their own decisions. We can give input but the decision will have to be theirs as it will be the lives they lead. -
TurtleSoup\" post_id=\"2133402\" time=\"1714963802\" user_id=\"185378:
I think it starts too now with YLL as I was told they hv a team across nursing, med, bioscience. It’s pretty new though so not sure if they just started this year.
I think parents have not heard of interdisciplinary courses that LKCMedicine students need to take. They WILL mix with students from other schools.
Is there a problem “mixing” with students from other schools ? How else are they going to learn to interact with patients and peers from all backgrounds to succeed in med ? -
lucid\" post_id=\"2133403\" time=\"1714964236\" user_id=\"14312:
If able to get in Oxbridge with secured scholarship then why not?
Yes. If we come to that , then for prestige and heritage, he should take the Oxbridge offer with secured scholarship!
At their age, I see our roles as facilitators to help them make their own decisions. We can give input but the decision will have to be theirs as it will be the lives they lead.
:lol:
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0548ling\" post_id=\"2133409\" time=\"1714975617\" user_id=\"15306:
It’s non-med though, will be entirely different vocation. So they have to decide for themselves what will get them out of bed every morning. Parents will be retiring and walking up and down park connectors for morning exercise.
If able to get in Oxbridge with secured scholarship then why not? :lol: -
mother777\" post_id=\"2133389\" time=\"1714945900\" user_id=\"34719:
On the Novena campus, i recall it was mentioned at our campus tour, year 3 students will go for training etc. So do check on this but it could be year 1 and 2 will mainly be at jurong campus. Anyone can clarify here?
Thank you leongyicheng75.
I see, both you and your DD are worried that NTU medicine study campus is segregated from rest of NTU colleges.
Fair enough concern from your end.
I believe the reason for this is to keep the Med college near the TTS hospital where the NTU med students will go for placement and other attachments.
As per my research, the accommodation hostel / hall for med students (Pioneer and Crescent) is located in the main NTU campus. So, fret not, the Med students will have ample time and multiple opportunities to mingle with other course students on campus on their off days and days they come back early from classes.
May not be most recent but interesting read:
https://thelowkeymedic.com/nus-or-ntu-medicine-how-to-choose-the-best-medical-school/?v=0f177369a3b7
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