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[Augmum]

Brenda10:

Hi Augmum

DD teacher ask them to estimate by x 0.70 for the 4 subjects so as to have some idea

hi brenda, i have heard of this estimation b4, so how accurate it is ??
(i mean as seen fr other kids, i know yr girl is still in P5)

[Brenda10]

Augmum:

Brenda10:

Hi Augmum

DD teacher ask them to estimate by x 0.70 for the 4 subjects so as to have some idea

hi brenda, i have heard of this estimation b4, so how accurate it is ??
(i mean as seen fr other kids, i know yr girl is still in P5)

Hi Augmum

I’m not sure how accurate. During the Parent-teacher meeting this Jun, the form teacher said the intention (using 0.7 instead of 0.75) is to encourage the children to work harder if they have any desired dream school in mind.

[Augmum]

Brenda10:

Hi Augmum

I’m not sure how accurate. During the Parent-teacher meeting this Jun, the form teacher said the intention (using 0.7 instead of 0.75) is to encourage the children to work harder if they have any desired dream school in mind.

brenda, i think it is a bit overly conservative leh....i just happened to work it out, transformed to rather low T-score......

[Brenda10]

Augmum:

Brenda10:

Hi Augmum

I’m not sure how accurate. During the Parent-teacher meeting this Jun, the form teacher said the intention (using 0.7 instead of 0.75) is to encourage the children to work harder if they have any desired dream school in mind.

brenda, i think it is a bit overly conservative leh....i just happened to work it out, transformed to rather low T-score......

Hi Augmum,

Yes. You’re right. If we base on average 80 marks for 4 subjects, using 0.7 would get 224. If use 0.75 that would get 240. Different is “16”.

[verykiasu2010]

a responsible school would use their own data, year after year, to apply the t-score formula, to derive the students’ school t-scores, and the school would also keep track of their actual t-scores, one by one, cohort after cohort


in this way, the school knows its own standard when benchmarked against the national standard

what so difficult about it ? most schools have computers, right ? this is not in the 80s

for example, one school consistently show that their own school t-score (P5, P6 SA1, prelims, etc) is always lower than actual t-score when the psle result is out

they tracked that the range is between 15 to 60 points increase for the kids, from the prelim t-score to actual psle t-score

my DD’s increase was 35 points higher than the prelim

[JonC]

You are given the attachment slip every time you get the report which provides info good enough for you to put into the T-Score formula to work out the T-Score of your kid in Class and Level in school.


But it is difficult to know national level. But what verykiasu2010 is correct that if school historical data of school and national deviation can work out where will it be.

But every cohort’s quality and the papers difficulties also plays a big part too.

[octopusmum]

this T-score estimation is certainly new to me. the principal is in his 2nd year managing the psle cohort in ds’s school but he was from another pri school previously…

may i know how is 0.7 derived?
thks v much

[verykiasu2010]

octopusmum:

this T-score estimation is certainly new to me. the principal is in his 2nd year managing the psle cohort in ds's school but he was from another pri school previously....

may i know how is 0.7 derived?
thks v much

the o.7 thingy to me is quite rubbish, plainly using an average to gauge without taking into consideration the mean and the standard deviation

they use 0.7 as an estimate from 0.75 which is assuming that every subject's t-score is 75 as people ASSUMED the max t-score is 300 for 4 subjects and that each subject is of equal weightage

for more discussion on t-score, there is a ksp thread on this

[tanbh]

ycpang:

octopusmum:

hey, i have been thinking about this recently ie if ds can't get into the IP schools, then what are the other alternatives? i stay at Toa Payoh. the better schools around here will be Catholic high and St Joseph. But what holds me back is their affiliation. they are affiliated to CJC, no offence here, but i would prefer that he goes to a better jc. Victoria is affiliated to VJC which is a good JC to go to but problem is, it is the east. not sure if i should enrol him into Victoria which is better if i think long term.....then again, VJC is quite far away too:(

Toa Payoh to VS is not too far. From Google's map, it is 13km, 15 mins by car and 45 mins by bus. I think this is reasonable. VS is a very good school. Has very strong team spirits, strong in sports, good academic results. A very good all-rounded school.

i think many old Victorians of earlier era would not like VS to be located close to VJC in Marine Parade... but that is MOE's plan to site same family of schools together like RI/RJC (b4 merge) both in Bishan... and VS is one of the Rare schools given a BRAND NEW SITE... where else most other schools are just being giving temp site to shift out and comeback after 2 years or so like Cedar Girls.... s'pore now really short of land lar

the Previous VS sites seems more CENTRALISED... the besides Jalan Besar stadium site is best because nearest central/south SGpore so it is ok for students from all direction.... But small and old.. the Geylang/Kallang Bahru site is ok but somehow stuck in the middle of a HDB estate... but still rather centrally located...
NOW In Marine Parade... those in the North and West may not like to enrol in VS as abit too far....

[harini]

octopusmum:

HI all


my eldest ds is taking psle this year and yes, we have applied for dsa already. NUSH and NJC respectively. nush no chance liao since he didn't even make it for the camp. waiting for njc results but i don't have high hopes really. there is an interview portion which i think will be too tough for him....
so, being the type that likes to plan ahead, i am thinking of what other better schools are there.

njc cut off point 4 to 5 pts, is this the cut off point to get into the JC to do A levels? my time was not so low leh and i am an ex njcian !

of course, if his \"O\" results are good enough, i will consider better jcs but if not that good ,then the affiliation will help, right? then again, i think i am thinking too far ahead.....

my son's teacher never gives us an \"estimate\" t score for my child. i guess that will put too much stress on parents plus child and based on what, can the teacher come up with the estimate!?

Hi,

Just remember that after the PSLE scores are out, there is a chance to apply again to NUSH and also many students do transfers out of their DSAed schl and there are tons of appeals going around. So if ur ds did not get thro' DSA, its really OK. Just focus on the PSLE results, with a high PSLE score any school is within his reach ...