Appeal Secondary One Posting
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ksasalways:
I am still of the opinion that there are gifted kids and above average kids. If the above average kids are forced into GEP due to training, they will suffer in there as the GEP programme has more robust syllabus, more projects and lesser time for actual PSLE preparation. Thus, the kid may not cope well.ycpang:
Hmm...better to go \"GEP enrichment\" and train for GEP test than to take normal tuition....
Well, after going thru the appeal exercise, your statement above do make sense.
Imagine, if you 'forced' your kids to go thru some of these GEP prep course and finally your DS/DD ended up in GEP class...he or she not only ended up learning with the top students, get the best teachers, smaller cohort size, first in Q for DSA etc, they also get the extra benefits when appealing even when their t-score shine less bright compared to some of the maintstreamers.
of course, on the other hand, we also have to think of the holistic development of our INDIVIDUAL kid...why is parenthood so tough???
But back to my basic thoughts, give thanks....比上不足，比下有余。
If the above average kid is in the mainstream and with the PSLE preparation in place, they can perform better and will score better to go to a good school.
Those cases of GEPpers scoring way below 260 are usually the ones who are neither here nor there. If they do not end up with a DSA offer (which some really do not get any), they will end up far worst off. If they had been in the mainstream, they may be enjoying school and having a easier time (compared with struggling in GEP), and adequately prepared for PSLE, thus able to score well with their above average capability.
The grass is always greener at the other side, but may not be really greener when you are standing there taking a closer look. For info, I've seen cases of kids \"trained\" into GEP and end up \"suffering\" and going nowhere in there - the parents may think they are doing for the kids' best interest when in fact they are not, such irony! -
Hi all, anyone who had appeal to VS, had already received calls from them? Hai…very anxious n stress…
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Be appreciative of what you have been GIVEN.
They may not be Gifted but they are indeed given to us (=gifts).
My kids need not be in a GEP class, we are happy as long as they are in a Happy Class.
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There are differences between smart kids n gifted kids. Gifted kids just are because they’re wired differently. I don’t believe in having to train kids to be gifted. The program is for those who are simply just wired that way that’s why they need a differentiated curriculum n different methodology. I can understand parental anxieties for wanting the best for their kids but is being in GEP truly best for kids who aren’t really gifted but are merely smart?? Gidted kids makes leaps of thinking n connections effortlessly cos thats one of their characteristics. Those wired differently, the smart ones who nevertheless are convergent rather than divergent (as gifted kids tend to be) may wonder whats wrong with them how come they cant see the connection or make the leap as effortlessly. during my time, doing triple science was for what people regarded as the smartest. But is it smart to have someone who’s gifted in languages do triple science no matter how smart that person is? I think not. I think it’s smarter for kids to be where they truly belong. There is a place for everyone. Those who aren’t academically inclined aren’t doomed. Celebrity chefs and celebrity hairstylists may not be academically inclined but they sure are very talented in their fields and well respected for their talents. It’s just sad that parents seem to recognise only one type of intelligence.
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Very weird postings.
So many here assume only RI can bring out the best out of their sons. If a student is not competitive vs a vs the entire cohort in RI, there’s nothing big to crow about. Compare to another high achiever who’s in another very good school and has been given ample opportunities to hone his academic, cca and leadership skills, the guy in RI fares poorly.
There’s no such thing as the best school only the most suitable school to bring out the best from these smart boys. RI is one among the handful.
Others are equally competent to groom your boys. -
Chirunner:
There are differences between smart kids n gifted kids. Gifted kids just are because they're wired differently. I don't believe in having to train kids to be gifted. The program is for those who are simply just wired that way that's why they need a differentiated curriculum n different methodology. I can understand parental anxieties for wanting the best for their kids but is being in GEP truly best for kids who aren't really gifted but are merely smart?? Gidted kids makes leaps of thinking n connections effortlessly cos thats one of their characteristics. Those wired differently, the smart ones who nevertheless are convergent rather than divergent (as gifted kids tend to be) may wonder whats wrong with them how come they cant see the connection or make the leap as effortlessly. during my time, doing triple science was for what people regarded as the smartest. But is it smart to have someone who's gifted in languages do triple science no matter how smart that person is? I think not. I think it's smarter for kids to be where they truly belong. There is a place for everyone. Those who aren't academically inclined aren't doomed. Celebrity chefs and celebrity hairstylists may not be academically inclined but they sure are very talented in their fields and well respected for their talents. It's just sad that parents seem to recognise only one type of intelligence.
Parents are trained to recognize intelligence the way MOE and the Singapore society recognize it. -
INNOVATE:
Agree:-) I have 3 boys, one each in ACSI, HCI n RI. it is so annoying hearing people say the best will go to RI, meaning?? The ones not in RI weren't good enough for RI? I happen to know people who don't want to go to RI or HCI or even both. One of my sons turned down RI's DSA offer. He didn't seem bothered that the majority of the GEPer boys in his school were headed there n I respected him for not following the herd. Quite a few of the top GEPers in his school chose HCI. Even tho I have one son in RI, it still irks me hearing comments like these. Ditto RGS vs NYGH. During my time, ASEAN Scholars were automatically sent to RI n RGS. I chose NY together with one other girl n we have never regretted it.Very weird postings.
So many here assume only RI can bring out the best out of their sons. If a student is not competitive vs a vs the entire cohort in RI, there's nothing big to crow about. Compare to another high achiever who's in another very good school and has been given ample opportunities to hone his academic, cca and leadership skills, the guy in RI fares poorly.
There's no such thing as the best school only the most suitable school to bring out the best from these smart boys. RI is one among the handful.
Others are equally competent to groom your boys. -
I have also seen a few cases of GEP students failed in their appeals to RI this year. Their T-Scores are from 255 to 263.
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Chirunner
Congratulations for being a wise mother.
Each of these three schools you had outlined above is capable to bring out the very best from your boys. Strictly speaking, there’s no difference in the overall quality btw these schools.
Each has its own unique qualities that wise parents can discover to nuture their sons. -
RI was the 1st Sec school to run the Sec sch GEP (Sec 1 to Sec 4) in 1984. The other was RGSS. As regards primary school it is Rosyth & RGPS started the GEP course (P4 to P6).
Until 2006 when the then Minster of Education felt that 500 GEP students every year was too small force rekoning that Spore could extend the 1% talents to 3% therefore the IP course and RI merged its GEP & non-GEP in 2006.
For yr 2005 & 2006 (each) there were about 6 classes of GEP (approx 25 x 6) and 9 classess of non-GEP (approx 32 x 9).
2004 PSLE top student (who is non-GEP student) was in a non-GEP class. 2005 PSLE top student (who is from Rosyth GEP) was in a GEP-class.
Of the 500 (actually less than 500 as some of those selected didn’t take up GEP offer) Pri 6 GEP every year, boys & girls ratio is 3:2. U see that about 150 GEP boys of the total 300 are in RI. GEP student’s PSLE mean score is about 262. GEP std is there to tell.
Go to RI’s web u will see that the mean & median read as 266 & 265. u will see the toughness if u are in the road. make u own judgement. RI too has its unique cultures & no everyone can immerse.
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