Preparing kids for P5 in 2011

[Happy Mama]

Augmum:

Happy Mama:

[quote=\"janet_lee88\"] Since Maths teacher said algebra is accepted, hubby is getting him to attempt questions using both methods. Just few days ago, I got son to do the chapter on drawing a diagram in I-Excel (Li Fanglan) and hubby asked him to use models and algebra to solve questions on number of legs of chicken and dogs.

Hi Janet, I didn't know Algebra is accepted in Pri 5. Looks like I have to start exposing DD to Algebra soon.

Happy mama,
Yes, it is accepted but be prepared for some negative comments from school teachers. :P[/quote]Will kids be penalised if they show workings with Algebra instad of models during PSLE?

[Augmum]

Happy Mama:

Augmum:

Yes, it is accepted but be prepared for some negative comments from school teachers.

Will kids be penalised if they show workings with Algebra instad of models during PSLE?

as from MOE black and white reply many years back,
it stated clearly that all mathmaticial logical methods are accepted.
So no penalisation, but no partial marks to be awarded if final answer is wrong.

but teachers usually will made comments on the papers/workbooks,
like \"how abt using model drawing??\" or \"Algebra again??\"
as for my gal, after a while, her teacher had gotten used to her workings. :lol:

[Happy Mama]

Augmum:

Happy Mama:

[quote=\"Augmum\"]
Yes, it is accepted but be prepared for some negative comments from school teachers.

Will kids be penalised if they show workings with Algebra instad of models during PSLE?

as from MOE black and white reply many years back,
it stated clearly that all mathmaticial logical methods are accepted.
So no penalisation, but no partial marks to be awarded if final answer is wrong.

but teachers usually will made comments on the papers/workbooks,
like \"how abt using model drawing??\" or \"Algebra again??\"
as for my gal, after a while, her teacher had gotten used to her workings. :lol:[/quote]Oh, ok. I think I will still stick to models for DD, but will teach her Algebra just for her general knowledge and to be used in case of emergencies.

[tisha]

Augmum:

as from MOE black and white reply many years back,

it stated clearly that all mathmaticial logical methods are accepted.
So no penalisation, but no partial marks to be awarded if final answer is wrong.

So if using algebra for solving in PSLE, must be fully correct otherwise will end up with zero for that particular Q ?

Thanks for pointing out augmum, DS will sometimes make a calculation error in the last step, and this could mean he will lose out on the marks heavily if using algebra and is careless.

[jtoh]

tisha:

Augmum:

as from MOE black and white reply many years back,

it stated clearly that all mathmaticial logical methods are accepted.
So no penalisation, but no partial marks to be awarded if final answer is wrong.

So if using algebra for solving in PSLE, must be fully correct otherwise will end up with zero for that particular Q ?

Thanks for pointing out augmum, DS will sometimes make a calculation error in the last step, and this could mean he will lose out on the marks heavily if using algebra and is careless.

Yes. No marks if working is wrong for algebra.

[Brenda10]

Augmum:

brenda, u're welcome.

not advice lah....paiseh
juz my personal feel and experience from my gal which suits her well.

i dunno of any book, as i taught her based on \"my memory\"

btw, gal's school teaches algebra using the mathematical manipulatives, Algebra Tiles...... that allow pupils to have better understanding.
but personally, i found it more confusing, maybe i dunno how to utilise it fully.

Hi augmum. Bao Dao Bu Lao. :salute:

[janet88]

HI Mummies,

I remember something about M1, M2 mentioned when hubby was talking to Maths teacher but totally unable to understand the conversation . Teacher said students are welcomed to use algebra or models and as long as working is shown/students are comfortable using algebra, no prob.

[philipsteele]

its really nice as a parent i was more worry about the preparation of my child to P5,so i get some information from here.

[Augmum]

tisha:

Augmum:

as from MOE black and white reply many years back,

it stated clearly that all mathmaticial logical methods are accepted.
So no penalisation, but no partial marks to be awarded if final answer is wrong.

So if using algebra for solving in PSLE, must be fully correct otherwise will end up with zero for that particular Q ?

Thanks for pointing out augmum, DS will sometimes make a calculation error in the last step, and this could mean he will lose out on the marks heavily if using algebra and is careless.

Tisha,
pl note that those words ‘no partial marks to be awarded if final answer is wrong” are NOT officially from MOE.

It was what I had concluded from my own observation from my gal and other classmates in their HW/exams.
As the teacher would not wanna to slowly make out the algebra's workings,
so they only see the final answer to award the marks, as we are aware that algebra workings can be very luan4 (messy).

As for model – drawing method or heuristic approach, there are marking scheme which the teachers followed closely,
so partial marks will be awarded.

When using algebra (or any other methods) to solve problem sums,
I always remind my gal to substitute her final answer to double check for accuracy.

[Augmum]

Brenda10:

Augmum:

brenda, u're welcome.

not advice lah....paiseh
juz my personal feel and experience from my gal which suits her well.

i dunno of any book, as i taught her based on \"my memory\"

btw, gal's school teaches algebra using the mathematical manipulatives, Algebra Tiles...... that allow pupils to have better understanding.
but personally, i found it more confusing, maybe i dunno how to utilise it fully.

Hi augmum. Bao Dao Bu Lao. :salute:

brenda, only for upper pri and lower sec,
as for current, her Sec 3 maths,
i am unable to help her in certain questions, all given back to teachers long time ago..... :lol: