Opinions of the Primary School Registration System

[Red_Rhino]

LOL...of course students get into primary schools does not depend on merit, a lot depends on luck....


I am not disputing that good schools produced good students, just added that every year these schools have top students because they have gifted programmes, and naturally top students will come from these schools..No??

Yes...if they imposed distance ruling many years ago, then, you won't see the same statistics you're seeing now at Nanyang.

How convenient, being labelled sour grapes, everytime we try to bring up some issues not in their favour :lol: :lol: :lol:

[lizawa]

[quote]I am not disputing that good schools produced good students, just added that every year these schools have top students because they have gifted programmes, and naturally top students will come from these schools..No?? [/quote]
Not all the top students are from the gifted programmes. I remembered the top PSLE girl (2 years ago, from RGS) was not from GEP but the mainstream. Last year's top scorer from St Hilda's was from the GEP.

However, mainstream students in schools with gifted programmes have the added advantage that if they are considered the \"high achievers\", they will be exposed to some advance learning that the GEP students are doing. Some teachers from the GEP may also be teaching the best class from the mainstream. These schools tend to push the better classes a little more because they need to maintain the standard of the school. Maybe that's why we see more top students from these schools.

[jeanjean]

Hi everybody. I have been reading the posts on P1 registration and seriously, there is no perfect school in Singapore. You simply need to find what environment best suits your child's personality and most importantly, she is happy in the environment.

[2galsmum]

roseyi:

eelsemaj:

Yep, this is what all parents that I spoke to thought of, except caroline.

eelsemaj

I think you have misunderstood Caroline. I agree with Chief analysis.

ChiefKiasu:

With respect to the Ai Tong and Pei Hwa cases, I'm not sure what happened or whether it was a misunderstanding, but the idea of having deadlines on Phases is to prevent exactly things like that from happening. If you \"forgot\" to register in time, then you have passed up your chance to do so, and that should be the end of it. No excuse should be accepted either by the school or the authorities, otherwise, the whole system breaks down.

Now we know that these actually happened (or, was it a misunderstanding bewteen the school and MOE staff) and if this is widely circulated, parents can use the excuse \"forgot to register in earlier phases\" to get into their 2nd choice sch in the previous phase after they learned that they might have to go through balloting BEFORE registering their kids in their 1st choice sch in the current phase.

I think Caroline was referring to those parents who might knowingly make use of this loophole / so call stratagy in order to get their kids into the school they desired. In this case, the excuse of \"forgot to register\".


Just like most parents who are in Phase 2C. They will wait and see the no. of registrants for the first choice school. If there will be a ballating carry out, these parents, after accessing their successful rate, might go for their 2nd choice school in phase 2C on the last day. Just that in this case, there will be no reduction in vacancies as you mentioned in your case for earlier phases.

Personally, after searching my heart for an answer to Caroline's comment of whether:

caroline3sg:

But then again, what happens if you are in that person's shoes? You would want to maximise your chances, isn't it?

I think I might do the same thing to maximise my chances.

BUT then again, I'm in Phase 2C, so this is out of the question.

Overall, I have this feeling that the MOE staff who gave the approvals to the Schools might be underequipped with the knowledge in this case. :roll:

After you brought up your case with your MP, I think MOE will not allow this to happen ever, ever again...

Yes, I do agree with Caroline as I will definitely put my kids first.....whatever strategy to get her into the preferred school......of course, after reading the encounters of some of you out there (maybe my requirements is not as high), we do sympathize with those who have put in lots of effort in trying to get your kids out there......but just couldn't work! And we are talking about Aitong, Pei hwa, all the better schools......don't find any issue with the normal neighbourhood ones though..

If priority of phase 2A2 will taken away, what happen to those teachers, who have asked for a transfer after 3 years of teaching and going thru' those interviews with the prestigious schools. Do you think they do this for themselves or to fall into Phase 2A2 category? Maybe we have started preparing last July but they have started ever since they enter into the teaching line..........Shouldn't they be rewarded and isn't it resonable that their children attend the same school as they are, despite the fact that they might not stay within 1 km from the school.

By the way, I am from phase 2B, NOT a teacher and I have a chance to attend my primary school (walking distance) in phase 2A2 but choose to try for Chongfu (within 2km) as it is a better school.........Isn't this a risk but would try for my kids as long as there is a chance. I thought of Aitong (so much more popular) at first but decide to change to Chongfu as the distance is of advantage to the later. But how many of those students manage to go to SAP schools? Pathing a way is important but in any case, if it does not work out, parents can choose to spend more time and there should be a back up plan!

[titank]

eelsemaj:

Title: Vacancies in Ai Tong School for phase 2B


Hi,

We are registering our kid for Ai Tong, under phase 2B, 1-2km.

During the registration, we started with 41 places. On the second day, the number of places suddenly became 39. Reason given by the school was that 2 places were given to families who forgotten to register during the previous phases. Also, MOE had approved this, and had directed ATS to take the places out of phase 2B, leaving the places in 2C as it was before.

Now, there are only 5 places, with 9 applicants.

We were so fed up with this move, and had written to MOE about it. Still waiting for a proper reply on this.

:x :rant:

Oh how can be like that? Each Phases are being given a certain period to register? Wow sure hot to heard such kind of system by MOE

Ok lastly I beleived many of us would be in Phase 2C. Is there any Live update where we can check the no. of students beng registered. As Phase 2C would open for 3 days, guess most parents (More than 2Km) would wait until the last day to register.

[fifimummy]

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[janet88]

jeanjean:

Hi everybody. I have been reading the posts on P1 registration and seriously, there is no perfect school in Singapore. You simply need to find what environment best suits your child's personality and most importantly, she is happy in the environment.

Agree 100%. There is no perfect school, and even if there is, our kids may not fit in. My younger daughter's personality will not fit into Pei Hwa, or I would have just registered her there under Phase 1.

[qms]

fifimummy:

another PR paying $$$ for a place? 50k-100k is this happening????

Do you have concrete evidence to substantiate this claim? :scratchhead:

[verykiasu2010]

fifimummy:

I had a friend who is a PR and is doing PVs for 2 schools... and having no intentions to convert her childrens to citizens? how fair is this for citizens? :x :x :x


another PR paying $$$ for a place? 50k-100k is this happening????

since is your friend, you know who is the person, why not you report this serious case of corruption to CPIB ? please do a good deed for the citizens, and can expose the school oso

MOE does not allow $$$ to buy a place in a school of choice

[dunnoleh]

fifimummy:

I had a friend who is a PR and is doing PVs for 2 schools... and having no intentions to convert her childrens to citizens? how fair is this for citizens? :x :x :x


another PR paying $$$ for a place? 50k-100k is this happening????

:!:

I hope you are joking here.