Suspect my maid has hp, advice needed
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I had a fair share of my maid using her HP too.
She was very good when she first came, without HP. She is super clean, need and tidy. She cooked good food too without much coaching.
Then, she ask me if she can use the HP as the previous employer give it to her as a present for her hard work (which I had verify with the agency and employer). I told her ok (becos I think that i should not forgo her rights just becos she is a maid and she seems a good worker :rahrah: ) but she must only use it when she had finished her work and she agree.
Months down the road, her usage of the phone become worse! she had a ear pc that go tru her clothes to her ear (as if she is doing big biz or FBI?!) and stay in the toliet for at least 30 mins! She take a shower for at least 1 hour. Soon, she got herself a 2nd phone which can surf the net and FB.
The list of chores that i told her to do before i go to work was not done at the end of the day, i ask her why? she told me \"I am sorry, mdm\" she surf the net whole day!
She is suppose to take my dog down for a walk but instead of walking the dog. she sit at the planter (common ppties) at or near my neighbour house yaking and smsing away without walking my dog. Neighbour started to gossip among each other and I am being told \"nicely\" to ask her not to stand near their house to talk if not their maid will learn from her.
She got carried away after she had the phone.
I had told her many times but i realise she become very lazy and worse of all her standard drop tremenously, I had to impose some house rules in order to \"save\" her :skeptical:
Same as most wrote on the rule that i impose; she is suppose to surrender her phone in the morning before i go to work, she did it for a few times after that she din. When i ask her again and again, she keep quiet. Finally - yesterday is the show down time. She ask me for day off; i told her no way cos she is late when she go for off days,
she rebuked,\" I din even complain that i am late for my off days! the bus is late and i have waited a long time, etc.. so why u complain??!!!\" :slapshead:
I really give it to her! hahahaa.. She is late, and yet she still want to complain? :yikes: :yikes: Then i wonder who should i complain to? :gloomy: :faint:
i ask her where is the phone or sim card? she told me off, why must i give it to you? this is my phone! :stompfeet: :mad:
I ask her where is the swimming suit, she told me inside the washing machine? :mad: i question her again why she put them in the washer when she is told countless times not to? she told me that she had forgotten and what's the big deal? :?: :?:
lastly, I asked her why she give bread with tomato sauce to my boy for breakfast? she said, he want it so i give him la.. :yikes: i asked if that is your son will you give him that for breakfast? she keep quiet.
I think she is gone liao after the conversation. it is such a pity; she was a good worker, but the HP addiction had got her into trouble. -
nettie:
that is the summary.....99.9% of maids are like that
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She got carried away after she had the phone. .......
............ but the HP addiction had got her into trouble. -
So very true that 99.9% of the maids let the use of hand phones consume them.
From both the above accounts they started as good maids. Maids that most employers would like to have.Good work, good attitude, super clean, taking care of kids etc.
As narrated by the employers, the usage of the phone increased and their work slackened. At the end of the day both the employers and the maids lose out
Employers get upset and the maids gets bolder and then when the limits of the employers have been tested the maids get into trouble.
Why then do employers still want to give their maids unlimited use of the hand phones?
Why do employers want to create their own problems? In thinking that they are being "understanding" the employers are indirectly giving the maids the leeway and opportunity to slacken in their work.
Given the opportunity to yak away or to do boring work, there is no prize for guessing what the maid will choose, -
I think to say that 99.9% slack off when they have a hp is a gross exaggeration - I have had 4 maids all of whom have had a hp and it hasn’t had a negative impact at all.
We have to face the reality that they will all have one nowadays and we have to find ways to deal with it. -
See so many of us are having the same problem a really good worker starting to get worse as time goes by cos of hand phones and off days…And its not that i slackened and gave her handphone. You have no choice but to give them a handphone else they will try hundred difft ways to sneak one in. I think very minority number of maids are able to restrain themselves when they have a handphone but for majority of them it is a new found freedom. Just like teenagers or a kid who got a new toy. Plus they dont have any family to police them esp no husband around. My maid lived with her husband for 14 yrs with no problem but now he is a really bad man and she wants to leave him and find somebody new!!
So what is the solution? IF i say i will take away ur handphone she wont agree. else she may even say something so rude that I will loose face… What is MOM going to do about this? When so many many of us are having the same problem and all because of handphone… Just like companies have a policy on personal calls during office hours, why not MOM set some rules for the maids. Alteast one or two rules which is favourable to the employer? Some thing to put these misbehaving maids in place…
I never ever let my maid take my kids to playground or any other place alone… What if she yaps on the phone and forget to take proper care… IF something happens she will get away with a sorry but her sorry wont reverse the situation. So I am not taking any chances…
The biz thing is what she told me But how to find proof that she is doing some stuff? I dont want to get myself into trouble…
Also can i get a ticket and send her back? Is that allowed? What if she refuses to go?
And my biggest biggest worry = How am I going to control the next maids HP? I can set the rules but what if she doesnt want to listen like wht my current maid is doing? I change her again? And the money that we spend changing each one of them…
Really wish there was some rule on hand phone usage…
BTW, my maid also has a FB acct and accord to her operated by her cousin as her ph doesnt have data plan. I said that is the last thing i need. To see my kids photos on her page… -
Just continue to monitor her suspected phone usage before you decide on your next course of action. I let my current maid and previous maid use hp and I have been lucky that they are responsible users. Unfortunately, my sis-in-laws chatting on hers very frequently and distracted. My problem with my previous maid started after I passed her my old laptop. By then, she had been with me more than a decade so I trusted her. She became quite engrossed messaging, Facebooking and videocalling. Her contract expired a year later and she didn’t want to renew so our parting was cordial. I didn’t want to fire her!
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new maid first time in Singapore
contract stated no handphone, acknowledged between maid agency and maid and employer on the day of arrival to employer house
a few months later maid was found to have hp yakking away merrily and screaming at the top of her voice - one day when I came home at odd & unexpected hour to pick up some forgotten documents - i thought she was screaming murder in the house - she was actually having a hell of time chit-chatting with don’t know who !!! my neighbors were thinking something wrong with the maid screaming at the top of her voice talking in hp … all the way we assumed she did not have as she has not requested for one and she agreed not to have one …
till this day I have no idea where the phone comes from, where the sim card come from, where she got the money to pay for the sim card …
God knows what else she was up to. this is definitely my last maid. no more. -
All my maids have hp. I can understand some maids really abuse the privilege. Once i scolded a maid (not mine) - i saw her chatting happily on the phone, pushing the pram, trying to cross the road but not concentrating. The car came, i screamed at her (I'm a pedestrian). She kept apologising to me. All this happen within the condominium compound. I told her if i ever see her on the phone and pushing the pram, i wont hesitate to complain to her madam.
But at the same time, i believe i should not deprive them from contacting the \"outside world\". Just like us, we may have problems, anger, frustrations, etc with our boss and we prefer to talk to our own friends.
Difficult to be a good boss
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Lynn2010:
All my maids have hp. I can understand some maids really abuse the privilege. Once i scolded a maid (not mine) - i saw her chatting happily on the phone, pushing the pram, trying to cross the road but not concentrating. The car came, i screamed at her (I'm a pedestrian). She kept apologising to me. All this happen within the condominium compound. I told her if i ever see her on the phone and pushing the pram, i wont hesitate to complain to her madam.
You did the right thing. It was fortunate that you were around. Have you ever thought what would have happened if you were not around? If she continues doing that, the next person who complains to her madam isn't going to do any good because the pram would have been crushed and madam would have been crushed too.
But at the same time, i believe i should not deprive them from contacting the \"outside world\". Just like us, we may have problems, anger, frustrations, etc with our boss and we prefer to talk to our own friends.
Why do you feel that you are depriving them from contacting the \"outside world\"?
Difficult to be a good boss -
nms1:
I think to say that 99.9% slack off when they have a hp is a gross exaggeration - I have had 4 maids all of whom have had a hp and it hasn't had a negative impact at all.
Would you like to share with us what you did with your maids that the possession of handphones did not have a negative impact at all? I think I understand what verykiasu2010 meant when he said 99.9% but you will have to ask verykiasu2010 if you are not comfortable with the figure
We have to face the reality that they will all have one nowadays and we have to find ways to deal with it.
I am not sure I understand what you mean when you say that \"We have to face the reality that they will all have one nowadays\". Why is this so?
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