Asia spending billions on tutors: study

[Lilac66]

oxyleo:

Lilac66:

[quote=\"oxyleo\"]

:rotflmao: don't be too sure Liliac66. There's always a quiet before a storm. I have a funny feeling..... Because my crystal ball told me that the WWIII started somewhere else. Will eventually spread back here when the fighting dies down \"there\". Don't be too sad when that happens k? Being the sweet peaceful dear you are. I promise not to reveal my horns unless someone else draws First Blood, ok? :hugs: just take shelter, for it might be brutal! :nunchuk:

:rotflmao: Thanks for your warning! ok, I take cover first. :siam: Take care! Will be back next year. Hopefully things have died down by then.

WWIII leh. You can run, but you can't hide! [/quote] :sad:

[Singfrench]

oxyleo:

Geez I hope I didn't trip over any land mines here. If I suddenly disappear from this forum... :?: :imdrowning:

Thanks for your input Oxyleo. really appreciate your input and as others have said you write really well and you do have a way with words.

[Lilac66]

Singfrench:

oxyleo:

Geez I hope I didn't trip over any land mines here. If I suddenly disappear from this forum... :?: :imdrowning:

Thanks for your input Oxyleo. really appreciate your input and as others have said you write really well and you do have a way with words.

Came out of my hiding to support this! Yes, agree fully. :rahrah:

[oxyleo]

Singfrench:

oxyleo:

Geez I hope I didn't trip over any land mines here. If I suddenly disappear from this forum... :?: :imdrowning:

Thanks for your input Oxyleo. really appreciate your input and as others have said you write really well and you do have a way with words.

:welcome: Blush blush.

[verykiasu2010]

janet_lee88:

cherryc:

Are all teachers NIE trained before they teach in schools? I have seen teachers who taught for one semester and then the school announced that they are leaving for NIE for professional training so they are not certified teachers yet ?

Teachers are not NIE trained when they start teaching in schools...they are untrained teachers until the principals decide whether they deserve that chance. Some of these untrained teachers may never get that NIE training. This was what I heard from a reliable source :censored:

there you go spouting nonsense and rubbish again

http://www.moe.gov.sg/careers/teach/career-info/training/

[verykiasu2010]

Lilac66:

janet_lee88:

[quote=\"cherryc\"]Are all teachers NIE trained before they teach in schools? I have seen teachers who taught for one semester and then the school announced that they are leaving for NIE for professional training so they are not certified teachers yet ?

Teachers are not NIE trained when they start teaching in schools...they are untrained teachers until the principals decide whether they deserve that chance. Some of these untrained teachers may never get that NIE training. This was what I heard from a reliable source :censored:

:yikes: This is NEWS to me! All along I have the notion that only relief teachers are not NIE-trained.

Oops, thank goodness VK2010 is not here, or he'll scoff at this \"hearsay, hearsay again\" :rotflmao:[/quote]http://www.moe.gov.sg/careers/teach/career-info/training/

[Moderator's Note: Post edited to remove inflammatory language targeted at individual members. Please focus on the issue, not the person making the comments. - ChiefKiasu]

[cherryc]

From the same website :


The Ministry of Education recruits teachers all year-round. Although you can apply to teach even if you have not taken or passed the relevant EPT, it is advisable that you register early for the test. Generally, it takes about 2 to 3 weeks to process your EPT application.

You will need to pass the EPT(s) for admission into NIE. If you fail to do so, you may be deployed to teach in a school as an untrained teacher while you register for the next EPT(s). However, passing the EPT does not necessarily mean that you will be short-listed for an interview or be admitted to NIE, as this will depend on other factors, such as meeting the entry requirements or your teaching performance in school.

Maybe existing teachers can provide further information. I learn a lot from all the fellow parents in this forum, there are so many ways to answer questions/discuss topics/verify or refute statements and most SAHMs will prefer the civilized way. Guess enough has been said …….

[janet88]

I am not spouting rubbish.

My cousin is a teacher, for goodness sake.

[cherryc]

仁者见仁，智者见智


For others, no comments

[autumnbronze]

Since it has been established that there are SOME NIE trained teachers who cannot teach, I don't see why the fuss about untrained teachers. For many other professions, we all have to start from somewhere. Why pick on the teachers only? This is clearly looking like a witch hunt .... a means to find any negative crumb against teachers to feed the masses.


I am very sure many pupils have benefitted from their teaching.

During my time, there were this batch of teachers referred to as contract teachers who were untrained. Perhaps they had to wait for the next intake into NIE, hence their teaching stint first.

I was a relief teacher for a year before entering NIE. That was because I missed the year's intake. It was a wonderful experience and re-affirmed my decision to join the teaching fraternity. I had a mentor/co-operating
teacher who was a senior to assist me. I KNOW I wasn't a bad teacher
because of the accolades that I received from the kids. I still have their gifts and notes of appreciation kept securely in a box.

On a separate note, it is becoming very pain(ful) to read the postings here. And I apologize first now if this is going to be harsh. But I will be speaking from my heart. I am doubting the extent of the 'pain' that those
have gone through. The alternative camp here has only tried to seek to clarify and provide, well, an alternative view. For those who claim that we are not civilized in our postings, well my FIL always admonishes my son that \"remember boy, for one finger pointing at others, there are four fingers pointing back at you\".

For myself, if I have adopted an unfriendly tone, I have explained why in
my previous post. However, seems to me that limlim's camp time and again take offense in what the alternative group have to say and choose to read what they want to read, to the point of truncating certain statements in their replies. The latest posts that I have just read, the subtle or not so subtle nuances towards the alternative group shocked me. Now who is stoking the fire huh?? Haiz, it's so clear that ONLY their views hold water, only THEY have experienced the pain, ONLY they are victims of bad teachers. Well, life is full of choices!!! You make your life out the way you want it to be. Not happy with the sch, nothing being done by MOE or the sch after feedback, then transfer out if you want immediate changes to be put in effect, as someone aptly put it.

(FYI) my K1 son was a victim of a 'bad' teacher. It affected his self-esteem in one aspect. Until today, he refuses to participate in sand and water play once very week because of what happened, something he looked forward to before the incident. This happened one year ago. I am still working on building up his confidence. That same teacher has tried to put him as well as my parenting style down right to my face. I just ignored her. Why? Because I believe she didn't know my son as well as the other teachers, including the Principal. The teacher left after a while. I found out earlier on she was inundated with personal problems. Unprofessional to take it out on my son, yes I agree but I saw a rationale there which I do not wish to share here cuz it's personal. To me, this my son's very FIRST life lesson that he is dealing with and if he pulls through successfully, I will give myself a pat on my back for being a damn good parent. If you think my actions are magnanimous, well, thats MY philosophy towards life. I have personally gone through so much PAIN in life during my younger days that which has shaped me the way I am now. I have my PRIORITIES in check. and I choose to see the good in life. Nothing wrong in that. Perhaps that's why I am at peace with myself.

I feel for you. I feel for you because there is so much bitterness in your
posts. And as someone put it in another thread, this is only Pri education. There is so much to life, please. In case anyone who feels that I am not qualified to comment cuz I do not have any Pri sch going kids, well I will just share with you that I was a late bloomer due to circumstances at home. BUT, I have done well in my education and life, even though I had to take the road less travelled through faith, determination, sacrifice and hard work. Much much better than my peers who did well in their PSLE or even at tertiary level. In the recent years, I have seen 4 cousins-in-law picking themselves up after their secondary education because they imbibed the same qualities mentioned above and are doing very well now. 2 of them were from Rosyth, one from a neighbourhood and one from the normal technical stream. So not all from good schools do well in their PSLE. And there are a myriad of reasons why pupils may not do well in their studies in their younger days.

This is an open forum, lest someone comes in and blasts me for my post.
Please bear that in mind. And I am certainly not off topic. There are underlying messages. But then again, perhaps one is in too much pain to read them. If you do not agree with me, I am fine with that. If you choose to respond to this post. I won't be replying. It's my last in here. So you can say \"good riddance to this poster\" under your breath or if
it makes you feel better, aloud then.

Where are the mods anyway??? Seriously CKS, you should reinstate those
who have 'resigned' from the posts because when they were around, the forum was so much more civil. But I guess views from ole timers like me don't matter much anymore .....