GEP 2012 - Screening & Selection

[baobei]

I believe GEP will help child who finds it bored when teacher is teaching and find the exercises or worksheet to do are too much focus on drilling the concepts.

[Mum101]

25hr mama:

porcupine12trade:

If your child is already top in school, excel in all 4 subjs, will you still let your child go Gep? Or stay mainstream

Then u have to ask yourself, can you (both parents & child) accept or are prepared to accept the fact that your dc may not achieve what he or she has been achieving for the past 3 years.

When come to GEP, they need to put in more effort, as all the subjects r pitched at a higher level, in order to tap to their so called \"fullest potential\". Even if they put in more effort, they may not top their the class or score 90+ marks for all papers or all subjects anymore, & not forgetting they will be competing with so many smart kids out there.

Some parents set very high expectation of their kids, some kids are perfectionist themselves and easily feel dejected when unable to meet parents' and own expectations.

Hence, both parents & kids have to learn to manage their expectations more realistically. I dun think it is wise to expect them to excel in every paper, in all subjects. A little setback is necessary & good for the kids sometimes.

Juz my 2 cents worth

You are absolutely right. Both parents and child have to make adjustments. You are unlikely to see 90 and above marks for all subjects without putting effort. Your child will meet many smart kids and recognise that it is good for his/her learning journey and not feel dejected that he/she can no longer top the class. So, emotional support from parents is really important. Maintain aggregrate score of 80% throughout the 3 years and have a core CCA will help in DSA if parents are worried that your child would not be able to do as well as they should in PSLE (but in most cases as I was told, majority will get 250 and above with appropriate support).

Enjoy the GEP learning journey and Good Luck!

[porcupine12trade]

25hr mama:

Hi porcupine12trade,


U may like to go to these links, I hv been following this blog, hope u enjoy too.

http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.sg/2008/09/day-in-life-of-gep-kid.html

http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.sg/2008/08/one-parents-experience-with-gifted.html

http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.sg/2012/04/why-villainising-gep-does-no-one-any.html

Hi 25hr mama

I read the blog and find it very encouraging.

thanks all for your views on gep.

sorry if i may sound not so positive. becoz I am a very risk adverse person. I dont know if i am taking a big risk to opt her in. My dd is sure she wants to join, so deep down i know its probably a go otherwise i will feel guilty not letting her try, however i need to convince myself. My dd does not match the \"image\" of the gep kids that are mentioned here, so i tend to wonder if gep is suitable for her ....

I am here to try to convince myself that its ok to give it a try. thank you.

[comfy]

Lock:

The purpose of GEP is in the curriculum. That's my view. I don't choose GEP in hope that my kid will score in PSLE or get into prestigious Sch. If that's my purpose, DS will be better off in Rulang where they prepare the kids very well for PSLE.


I am of the opinion that since DS has been selected for GEP, that will mean he needs a different curriculum to expand his learning repertoire. Currently, in mainstream, kids are very drilled in the subjects to do well, there's v little 'real' learning taking place in the classroom. I hope I am not wrong to think that GEP curriculum allows the kids to explore and dig deeper into the subjects and that the learning journey is more enriched.

I like your optimistic view of GEP especially the highlighted portion. Sometimes it is the way certain subject is implemented that make it difficult for kid or parent to know how to do better. Let me give you an example, in NYPS (her class) , anything about science are filed in school, if your kid wants to take back, she/he will need to obtain permission from the teacher. So most of the times I am clueless about what is happening in school. Some parents might like it, but not so for me if your dd's result at the end of the year say otherwise. The reason given by teacher is that she is afraid the kid will lost these notes or worksheets. You might has a glimpse when your kid bring it home to finish (which is seldom). By the time, they bring home, as a parent you might not have the time to look at it or simply forget about it unless your kid is super passionate about the subject, you simply might not have an idea what is going on. The pace is rather fast in GEP, so the concept learnt is at times not 'deep' and 'explore' enough to do well in paper exam. This is just my experience, might be different from other parents.

[comfy]

Mum101:

25hr mama:

[quote=\"porcupine12trade\"]If your child is already top in school, excel in all 4 subjs, will you still let your child go Gep? Or stay mainstream

Then u have to ask yourself, can you (both parents & child) accept or are prepared to accept the fact that your dc may not achieve what he or she has been achieving for the past 3 years.

When come to GEP, they need to put in more effort, as all the subjects r pitched at a higher level, in order to tap to their so called \"fullest potential\". Even if they put in more effort, they may not top their the class or score 90+ marks for all papers or all subjects anymore, & not forgetting they will be competing with so many smart kids out there.

Some parents set very high expectation of their kids, some kids are perfectionist themselves and easily feel dejected when unable to meet parents' and own expectations.

Hence, both parents & kids have to learn to manage their expectations more realistically. I dun think it is wise to expect them to excel in every paper, in all subjects. A little setback is necessary & good for the kids sometimes.

Juz my 2 cents worth

You are absolutely right. Both parents and child have to make adjustments. You are unlikely to see 90 and above marks for all subjects without putting effort. Your child will meet many smart kids and recognise that it is good for his/her learning journey and not feel dejected that he/she can no longer top the class. So, emotional support from parents is really important. Maintain aggregrate score of 80% throughout the 3 years and have a core CCA will help in DSA if parents are worried that your child would not be able to do as well as they should in PSLE (but in most cases as I was told, majority will get 250 and above with appropriate support).

Enjoy the GEP learning journey and Good Luck![/quote]Just to add, not only Good Luck but maybe $$$$. :evil:

[porcupine12trade]

comfy:

Just to add, not only Good Luck but maybe $$$$. :evil:

huh u mean gep need to spend alot of $$$??

Any parents have the slightest regret opting in gep? i dont want to set my dd up for failure. the more i read about the requirement, I more :nailbite:

[octoberbaby]

ranjan2k2:

My DS is failed to enter GEP. But he did Good in School exam ! Stood 1st in Math and #3 position on all subject. Not gone any tution yet !!


Very Proud of Him.

He will meet again in PSLE !!

My DS failed GEP when he was P3. 2 of his then classmates qualified, transferred to another primary sch. Now in sec 1 he met one of them in a reputable sec sch and became classmate again after 3 years separation. The other GEP qualifier couldn't make 260 aggregate score.

[Mum101]

"…There is only the prerequisite baseline that the kids need to meet, 70/100 for all subjects except English which is 65/100…"


If you want are thinking of DSA so less pressure when sitting for PSLE, the above is not going to be enough.

Those who score below 80% in aggregate score in GEP P4 to P6 have to take GAT/HAST, even if they make it through and proceed to the interview round, most likely they will not be given a confirmed offer unless the aggregate score is slightly below 80% and the child has good CCA records or other talents.

DSA via GEP domain where GAT/HAST is exempted is for those who has aggregate score of at least 80% and above from P4 to P6. Interview is still required.

If DSA is secondary to you and you know your child will perform in PSLE to get the T-Score to go to your child’s dream school, then meeting baseline is good enough to get thru GEP.

[BeContented]

Lock:

The purpose of GEP is in the curriculum. That's my view. I don't choose GEP in hope that my kid will score in PSLE or get into prestigious Sch. If that's my purpose, DS will be better off in Rulang where they prepare the kids very well for PSLE.


I am of the opinion that since DS has been selected for GEP, that will mean he needs a different curriculum to expand his learning repertoire. Currently, in mainstream, kids are very drilled in the subjects to do well, there's v little 'real' learning taking place in the classroom. I hope I am not wrong to think that GEP curriculum allows the kids to explore and dig deeper into the subjects and that the learning journey is more enriched.

:goodpost:

Tho I have no business here cos my kids not in GEP, just like to share my view. My close friend's child was rather 'challenging' as a child. Has her own opinion, always asking questions, sensitive, everything gotta use reason for her to accept, loves reading, superb memory & then to like to speak to adults (小大人). Back then we just found her different, later when she was selected for GEP despite leaving lotsa unanswered questions blank for Maths (the child's principle - dun guess if u dun know). And of course bored in class.
Initially, she was rather average in the GEP programme....2 years on, we could really see her blossom. Like what Lock mentioned, they are not drilled for PSLE, they are taught to think & analyse higher stuff ie. real learning, problem solving etc. The child is now rather happy, I believe that's because intellectually she has avenues to turn to. Guess sometimes as adults, most of us may not have the patience or too busy to engage in the topics (or sometimes the depth level) with these small kids :oops:

I remembered how the child was not keen to play with similar age kids & yet unable to find adults cos we are always chatting & chilling & leaving the kids to play amongst themselves. So this child, is often alone in a corner reading. Now she is able to blend in better & her quest for knowledge is definitely still strong. Recently she spoke about trade barriers, all of us flipped

So my view, a good programme for those suitable

[octoberbaby]

GEP is indeed a good programme. Only certain kids are able to apply and success. Not sure when they become adults, working attitude, etc