St Margaret's Primary

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CBDL\" post_id=\"2014139\" time=\"1612419029\" user_id=\"191219:

Could someone kindly pm the email address of the Principal & Vice Principal (we have the generic email address)?

Any light that you can shed on the above questions, will be much appreciated, we have absolutely no clue on the current school situation as we have been away for over 20 years.

Thank you so much

Assured School Placement is for those with no preference of schools. The list drawn up by MOE will be based on proximity to your intended place of residence. They won’t take into account your priorities or preferences. As such, it’s quite unlikely to include all 3 schools since they are in different areas. If you have indicated your intended residence as near to St Margaret - the original location, not the temporary location - there’s a chance, albeit very slim, that the school might show up as one of the option.

Frankly, the rest of the questions are better answered after MOE has gotten back to you with the list for your consideration. You can then go through the merits of each option / school. TBH I’m highly doubtful SMPS (or RVPS) would be available even if you have indicated your intended place of residence as Mount Sophia. You are more likely to receive Farrer Park as an option than those two schools.

[CBDL]

Thank you for your detailed response and sorry for the delay in reverting.


We have been extremely fortunate and had just received news that our daughter has been admitted under the Assured School Placement (ASP) program into St Margaret’s. Based on your post, this would appear to be a relatively low occurrence, as such we are overjoyed and grateful.

In the event that there are returning Singaporeans in a similar situation, and had not previously secured a Leave of Absence with a specific school, we would suggest writing to MOE and/or the School. We have found that this has been most helpful. We believe that the outcome is solely based on proximity to the school and vacancy at the level of admission. This approach will likely be unsuccessful where there is a long waiting list at the level of entry. For the Schools we had investigated, there was a 25-30% drop in the total number of students admitted over the last 3-4 years. As such, the upper primaries has a larger population than the lower primaries, coupled perhaps with the temporary shift to its present location, this may have resulted in this availability.

We had also subsequently realize that it may not be an easy decision choosing between St. Margaret and Fairfield, if coed /girls school and distance are not prevailing factors. From an affiliation perspective, through to Junior College, we believe that SMPS to be more suitable for our case.

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CBDL\" post_id=\"2014619\" time=\"1612885337\" user_id=\"191219:

Thank you for your detailed response and sorry for the delay in reverting.

We have been extremely fortunate and had just received news that our daughter has been admitted under the Assured School Placement (ASP) program into St Margaret's. Based on your post, this would appear to be a relatively low occurrence, as such we are overjoyed and grateful.

In the event that there are returning Singaporeans in a similar situation, and had not previously secured a Leave of Absence with a specific school, we would suggest writing to MOE and/or the School. We have found that this has been most helpful. We believe that the outcome is solely based on proximity to the school and vacancy at the level of admission. This approach will likely be unsuccessful where there is a long waiting list at the level of entry. For the Schools we had investigated, there was a 25-30% drop in the total number of students admitted over the last 3-4 years. As such, the upper primaries has a larger population than the lower primaries, coupled perhaps with the temporary shift to its present location, this may have resulted in this availability.

We had also subsequently realize that it may not be an easy decision choosing between St. Margaret and Fairfield, if coed /girls school and distance are not prevailing factors. From an affiliation perspective, through to Junior College, we believe that SMPS to be more suitable for our case.

:congrats:

St. Margaret's Secondary School has a very good PSLE T-Score COP for students from affiliated primary schools. Hope that the AMR (affiliate minimum requirement) under the new AL Score will continue to be attractive.

All the best to your gal.

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coast\" post_id=\"2014645\" time=\"1612928354\" user_id=\"38933:

:congrats:

St. Margaret's Secondary School has a very good PSLE T-Score COP for students from affiliated primary schools. Hope that the AMR (affiliate minimum requirement) under the new AL Score will continue to be attractive.

All the best to your gal.

Thank you this is akin to divine intervention for us.

We were still living under the impression of the T Score COP system until you had pointed out about the new Achievement Level banding system.

Would the following understanding on how the COP works (under the T Score system), based on ranking and available vacancies be correct:[list]

[CBDL]

[quote]MOE said that secondary schools affiliated to primary schools will still have two sets of cut-off points next year to cater to affiliated and non-affiliated pupils.


It said that there will also be no change in how the affiliation priority works, with pupils still required to meet the minimum requirements of the secondary school and pick them as their first choice. [/quote]These are taken from Today Online,
Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/moe-release-mid-2021-indicative-cut-points-sec-schools-based-new-psle-grading-system?cid=h3_referral_inarticlelinks_03092019_todayonline

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CBDL\" post_id=\"2014697\" time=\"1612972990\" user_id=\"191219:

if the number of applicants exceeds 200, then students with or without AMR will be sorted and ranked with the affiliation offset, and the 200th ranked student's score + affiliation offset (if applicable) become the COP

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if there is a tie for the last spot, then the student that has indicated SMSS as the higher priority will secure

[/list]If this understanding is correct then COP is a market driven cutoff that adjusts each year based on the number of applicants, quality of applicants and available spots.

Also, I wonder if the affiliation offset is determined by targeting a certain affiliate percentage say y% of the new intake?

Perhaps someone can shed some light on this?

Hopefully, the relative offset will still apply well under the new system.

How Affiliation Priority Works

https://postimg.cc/qgb0FDyT

https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle-fsbb/posting-to-secondary-school/faqs.html

Do note that MOE is working with the schools to determine the minimum requirements for affiliated students. If I am not wrong, it will be released by mid-2021.

Hope it helps.

If you have any query, do feel free to post here.

Happy Lunar New Year! :rahrah:

[Vicjam84]

Hi, my daughter is due to register in 2022 (born 2016). We are PR living within 1km. What do you think are the chances of getting in?


I was hoping to register as PV last year but they are no longer running PV scheme (so dissapointed). Any parents in the same shoes?

Which other schools have a good school culture and are easier to get in for PRs?

[Davischew]

Vicjam84\" post_id=\"2015006\" time=\"1613485042\" user_id=\"186881:

Hi, my daughter is due to register in 2022 (born 2016). We are PR living within 1km. What do you think are the chances of getting in?

I was hoping to register as PV last year but they are no longer running PV scheme (so dissapointed). Any parents in the same shoes?

Which other schools have a good school culture and are easier to get in for PRs?

Quite risky for PR, need to see actual stats on last day of registration. If no chance then backup would be Marymount Convent at 2C, sure in.

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Davischew\" post_id=\"2015016\" time=\"1613492537\" user_id=\"132882:

Vicjam84\" post_id=\"2015006\" time=\"1613485042\" user_id=\"186881:

Hi, my daughter is due to register in 2022 (born 2016). We are PR living within 1km. What do you think are the chances of getting in?

I was hoping to register as PV last year but they are no longer running PV scheme (so dissapointed). Any parents in the same shoes?

Which other schools have a good school culture and are easier to get in for PRs?

Quite risky for PR, need to see actual stats on last day of registration. If no chance then backup would be Marymount Convent at 2C, sure in.

My gut feel is no chance for PR from 2022. SMPS is expected to move back to their original address in 2022 after completion of their renovation. New and upgraded facilities, as well as removal of one big bugbear (far location of temp site), will surely see new / renew interest from SC.

Marymount Convent is also not a guaranteed for PR, especially for PR > 2km, as it is subjected to a PR quota for Phase 2C and 2CS. Notwithstanding, it’s a good recommendation if affiliation is not critical.

[Vicjam84]

Thank you Davischew and floppy for your replies. Seems like SMPS might be out for us then, we will probably look into Marymount Convent and see if we can relocate to get a better chance.