Any parents of gifted children here ?
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tamarind:
When my son was in kindergarten, his teacher did just that. He was appointed as a little teacher or teacher asst and he helped the other children with their work and he really enjoyed going to school then. But now that he's in primary school, there's really no opportunity to 'reprise' this role cos the class is conducted such that they are not supposed to distract each other..
Well I am not gifted. So I do not completely understand how the minds of other gifted children work. May be they already had tuition at home, and already knew everything in the subject very well. But it will still do them a lot of good if they go about helping other students. -
Hi All,
It is very exciting to follow this thread
I really kudos to your efforts in nurturing your kids. I must say I am still far far from many of you. Feeling guilty a bit now :roll:
For me, I emphasis a lot on EQ, AQ and character development like mumwgals. I do not think any of my kids is going to be gifted and in the first place I am not gifted myself so I dun expect them to be one too!
Why I emphasis so much on these: EQ, AQ and character development is because I see myself in my own life that high IQ will not secure a great job with good $$
It is great character- leadership, high EQ and AQ that will help one in their career and life.
For example, now I have an extremely smart BROWN UNIVERSITY intern working for me for the last 1 month and I cant wait for her to complete her internship and go. And I am not the only one...luckily... infact, she was 'thrown' to my care cos the rest of the managers cannot 'tahan' her for her extreme approach- very open and talks so much as if she is the best! Yes, she is intellectually smarter than anyone in the team but she cannot produce good quality & completed work compared to my other direct reports who is only a poly grad... Very high EGO and low EQ, she just came into my office and left the paper on my desk and walked off!! And she does this to the managers... can you imagine how far this person can go? For me, I will definitely not hire her in my team! Not at all! Even she is the TOP TOP gifted student from Brown University
... just my thoughts. -
brequet posted:[quote]http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/speeches/2004/sp20040603.htm
http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/speeches/2002/sp05122002.htm [/quote]Hi brequet
Interesting articles. Thanks for sharing.
Hi wwcookie
In some top schools, since there are so many bright students in comparison to the weaker ones, opportunities to help the weaker students are lesser. Is that the situation that is happening in your son school?
My son still has the opportunities to help as the current seating plan arrange by the teacher is to have a brighter student be a mentor to the weaker ones. But comes primary two, the brighter ones will be stream to different classes & the extremely weak ones will be stream to the 3 bottom classes. My guess will be the average classess will still have the opportunity to help as the range can be between those who fails marginally to those who are in the 70-80s range.
Tamarind wrote: [quote]May be they already had tuition at home, and already knew everything in the subject very well.[/quote]If only tuition & enrichment helps, then there will be countless of gifted students in Singapore; given that society today depends highly on enrichment centres & tuition teacher. -
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mamachris:
Sorry, this is completely outside of the thread. Poor you! A lot of the interns will do well to remember they're not hired yet. Guess it won't happen now!
For example, now I have an extremely smart BROWN UNIVERSITY intern working for me for the last 1 month and I cant wait for her to complete her internship and go. And I am not the only one...luckily... infact, she was 'thrown' to my care cos the rest of the managers cannot 'tahan' her for her extreme approach- very open and talks so much as if she is the best! Yes, she is intellectually smarter than anyone in the team but she cannot produce good quality & completed work compared to my other direct reports who is only a poly grad... Very high EGO and low EQ, she just came into my office and left the paper on my desk and walked off!! And she does this to the managers... can you imagine how far this person can go? For me, I will definitely not hire her in my team! Not at all! Even she is the TOP TOP gifted student from Brown University
... just my thoughts.
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Hi All,
It’s interesting to following the different opinions each of us have regarding the education system in Singapore. My son was ‘recommended’ to take a test at the GEP dept in June this year. I took up the offer as he is always quite reluctant to go to school and he finds Math ‘very boring in class’. So I thought of taking the opportunity to see what GEP can recommend. In the end, it wants his class teacher to give him special worksheets to challenge him and then wait till he ‘gets into the gep programme’ as he is already quite accelerated (he’s a mensa member).
I am not as keen on the gep as much as I would like him to be learning and feeling happy at school for the next 4 years. He’s in a neighbourhood school and the challenge is so-so. I could do some comparisons as I was an ex-primary teacher. My question to gep dept was what if he does not get into the programme - does that mean that he will only be challenged ‘separately’ from his classmates? I am in the process of considering a transfer but being born in the year of the dragon, there are practically no vacancies everywhere, even another better neighbourhood school.
I am really in a loss as to what best to do so that he could be challenged appropriately together as a group with his friends. I quite agree with the newspaper article regarding identifying some bright kids earlier so that they can be put together to ‘enjoy their own pace of learning’.
cheers -
I believe that there is still some form of grooming besides the GEP though I am not sure if this is a common practice. In my kids' (neighbourhood) school, the children are grouped into batches of 60-80. It means that the 1st 2 classes contain the top ~20% of that level (I guess quite like an unofficial EM1 class). These 2 classes are given tougher challenges and in most internal competitions, I see these students performing at a different level from the rest. Also, while other classes are having \"remedial\" lessons, the 1st 2 classes were having \"supplementary\" lessons. :roll:
Do any parents here experience this in other schools? -
EN:
If only tuition & enrichment helps, then there will be countless of gifted students in Singapore; given that society today depends highly on enrichment centres & tuition teacher.[/quote]I don't mean that the tuition teacher can turn a normal kid into a gifted kid. The role of the tuition teacher for gifted kids, is to teach them things which are more far advanced than what they learn in school. That is what I mean that the child already knew everything in the subject.
Tamarind wrote: [quote]May be they already had tuition at home, and already knew everything in the subject very well.
Even a highly gifted kid needs to be taught. Are there any gifted kids here who can read on his/her own, without being taught at all ? Even without enrichment classes, the mommy would have been teaching the child to read. How many gifted kids can understand fractions and algebra entirely on their own ? They also must be taught by tuition teachers or by their parents.
A gifted kid does not mean that he/she knows things from birth. They also must go through the learning process, but it is just that they learn very fast compared to other kids. For example, the 7 year old boy who passed O-levels Chemistry. Does he remember things from his past life ? Of course not. I don't believe he did it without any guidance, despite what his mommy said. He probably has photographic memory. But his mommy would have at least taught him how to read, and also explained things to him.
However, I believe many parents hire tuition teachers to drill their normal kids to try to get into the GEP. I am not surprised if some of them succeeded. The GEP selection process is not that fool proof. -
heutistmeintag:
Yes this is happening in West Grove primary school. I prefer this model, because it is unobtrusive.I believe that there is still some form of grooming besides the GEP though I am not sure if this is a common practice. In my kids' (neighbourhood) school, the children are grouped into batches of 60-80. It means that the 1st 2 classes contain the top ~20% of that level (I guess quite like an unofficial EM1 class). These 2 classes are given tougher challenges and in most internal competitions, I see these students performing at a different level from the rest. Also, while other classes are having \"remedial\" lessons, the 1st 2 classes were having \"supplementary\" lessons. :roll:
Do any parents here experience this in other schools? -
breguet:
Breguet,
Sorry, this is completely outside of the thread. Poor you! A lot of the interns will do well to remember they're not hired yet. Guess it won't happen now!
Thanks for your understanding...
Sorry, I am aware what I wrote was a side-track. My point across to all parents is that no matter whether a person is gifted or not (at tender age), it does not secure his/her path in the future. Thus, it is important to focus on the right perspectives of learning- moral values, character building, EQ and AQ- which is harder to teach.
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