Are you ready for 7 million people on tiny Singapore?

[3Boys]

WeiHan:

goldfish2013:

[quote=\"3Boys\"]You may have seen this before


http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=8321


Is Population Growth a Ponzi Scheme?

The basic pitch of those promoting population growth is straightforward in its appeal: \"More is better.\" Joseph Chamie, who has spent a lifelong career as a demographer, including 12 years of service as the director of the United Nations Population Division, finds that more is not necessarily better.

It really looks like we are falling into it.

3boys is fast in reading Lucky Tan's blog nowaday which he used to dismiss as someone with an axe to grind with the government.[/quote]Harlo! I've not suddenly become a fan of him or agree just because of 1 issue! :spank:

[keroppi]

Dora1:

Nope, after MOP can rent out whole flat also. This is applicable to SCs, and PRs until the recent cooling measure in Jan this year. Prior to this, they can rent out the whole flat after MOP just like SCs. So many HDB rental units, where are the owners staying? Of cos in their condos!

Problem is HDB keeps tweaking their rules until everyone blur liao. As far as I know, now can liao. After MOP can rent out whole flat. PRs now left out of money-making HDB flat subletting business after the latest cooling measure.

[WeiHan]

3Boys:

Harlo! I've not suddenly become a fan of him or agree just because of 1 issue! :spank:

Not that you will admit even if you admire him secretly. But I was just saying that you have been reading his blog.

[3Boys]

WeiHan:

3Boys:

Harlo! I've not suddenly become a fan of him or agree just because of 1 issue! :spank:

Not that you will admit even if you admire him secretly. But I was just saying that you have been reading his blog.

I read TOC too, as a means of torturing myself.

And no, I have not been reading his blog, only when topics come up in discussions that reference his material.

[limlim]

keroppi:

Dora1:

Nope, after MOP can rent out whole flat also. This is applicable to SCs, and PRs until the recent cooling measure in Jan this year. Prior to this, they can rent out the whole flat after MOP just like SCs. So many HDB rental units, where are the owners staying? Of cos in their condos!

Problem is HDB keeps tweaking their rules until everyone blur liao. As far as I know, now can liao. After MOP can rent out whole flat. PRs now left out of money-making HDB flat subletting business after the latest cooling measure.

From what I'm aware, HDB never allowed subletting of whole flat unless there is prior approval from HDB where they'll evaluate your justifications to do so.

[hquek]

Umm, my understanding is that under current rules, HDB will allow for whole unit to be sublet as long as MOP is fulfilled. The tenancy and the names of tenants have to be registered - whether whole unit or room sublet.


In the past, it was more difficult to sublet the whole unit (have to write in for approval etc); but now just MOP fulfilled can already.

[octoberbaby]

Dora1:

So actually the weakest link is allowing 1 of the PR couple to convert to SCs. All the cooling measures or whatever other measures will not work on these people who have the intention of abusing the system and cash in on the benefits. That's why they should not allow only 1 spouse to convert. Want to convert both must convert together.

The problem lies with the immigration dept people who approved the PR or SC blindly.
In the application letter, it states who are the husband or the wife, marriage of certs, birth certs are all must be attached.

[hercules]

3Boys:

You may have seen this before


http://www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=8321


Is Population Growth a Ponzi Scheme?

Thanks 3 Boys, that's a great read!

I am not sure about your stand but PAP keeps wanting Singaporeans to swallow bitter pills to prevent future illnesses is very bad for their Y2016 election.

Think they will lose big time then.

WP must be busy strategising themselves, how not to win too many wards in Y2016 election, to the extent that they will be 'forced' to become the government.

Y2021 is more feasible for WP to take over if these bitter pills keep coming out from PAP.

[Just relax]

The increase in population size mitigates the consequences and effects of an aging population. There is an economies of scale issue here where because Singapore is small the greater density can lead to a mitigation of costs increases that will continue to happen.


There is also an insufficient domestic market to sustain Singapore’s current rate of economic growth and so if u do nothing, eventually you will start to deflate economically leading to a lower quality of life in an overcrowded environment.

I am not sure as to what is the right population figure as it is crystal ball gazing at best. But unless you have a time travel machine, the best you can do is to look into the crystal ball and hope you are seeing what you hope to see!

[wonderm]

Just relax:

The increase in population size mitigates the consequences and effects of an aging population. There is an economies of scale issue here where because Singapore is small the greater density can lead to a mitigation of costs increases that will continue to happen.


There is also an insufficient domestic market to sustain Singapore's current rate of economic growth and so if u do nothing, eventually you will start to deflate economically leading to a lower quality of life in an overcrowded environment.

I am not sure as to what is the right population figure as it is crystal ball gazing at best. But unless you have a time travel machine, the best you can do is to look into the crystal ball and hope you are seeing what you hope to see!

:goodpost: