2014 P1 Registration Exercise for 2015 In-Take

[THC]

Pen88n:

FQW:

Would it make the whole P1 reg process less stressful if there's a rule to state that if someone reg at an earlier phase (e.g. P2B), once that phase has passed, he can't go back to de-register to apply to a later phase when opportunity arises.

I agree with FQW's suggestion. If the parent has a choice of phase B or C, they should decide which phase they want to take on and register at that phase. Even if subsequent phase C shows that they have an advantage, they should not be allowed to \"jump ship\" as they have already exercise their \"rights\" to their privilege of registering at an earlier phase. It's only fair that other parents have a chance to exercise their \"rights\" - cannot be you get to choose all the cake and eat it based on what is best for you!

Works both ways: the schools have reserved the place for your kid, why should you be allowed to back out and opt for another \"better\" school later when you see the opportunity?

Also agreed that these 4 parents indeed went by the rules and played it to their advantage, and they did not break any rules so cannot fault them. If MOE does not address this, there are going to be more 4+pm registration on the very last day, with parents sitting in school waiting to take advantage of this situation.

Let say I own a car and also stay very near to MRT station.
One day, I heard that the expressway traffic is very bad. And taking MRT will be faster and I will likely be punctual for very very important meeting that matters my kid education.

So will you still drive or take MRT?
You can't be fault for owning a car but take MRT.
It is similar to P1registration withdrawal mentality.

[janet88]

parents who have registered (or reserved) a place in an earlier phase should not be allowed to ‘jump ship’ after that. it’s just like DSA. I know of this friend who brought her child for many DSA applications and secured a place…then the child did very well for PSLE and she felt the school secured earlier was not good enough and wanted to back out and try for another one. fortunately she was not successful in doing so.

[phtthp]

I feel that the (initial first two days plus right up to latest 3.30 pm of last day) in Phase 2C -

Parents can still withdraw, because there are parents who need to withdraw.

Example
Some schools all along past years have been offering Hindi, as Mother Tongue.
Suddenly this year, got some school announce :-
start from next year onwards : only offer Tamil, no more Hindi.

If your child is currently enrolled under Phase 1 or 2A and parent only want Hindi for Mother Tongue but not Tamil, then got to withdraw, look for another school that offers Hindi.
No choice in this case, but they have the need to withdraw.
Cannot say don’t let these parents withdraw, just because their children have already been enrolled, in earlier Phase 1 or 2A.

But after 3.30 pm -
There should be no more withdrawal allowed.
Only Permit registration, Yes.
MOE should implement a cut off time for withdrawal, on the last day of Phase 2C

ESPecially in that critical last 45 mins (3.45 pm to 4.30 pm) -
You just can’t simply allow last minute parents to walk in, and throw everyone else in the badly impacted, affected distance group off course, get pushed out without any chance to enrol in Phase 2C.

This is a very serious matter, that MOE has to look into.
If you are one of the pushed out parents directly impacted, you know how painful it is, to get pushed out.

[ChiefKiasu]

Why is it withdrawals that is getting all the attention? The fact is, some parents might be simply waiting for the last moment to register, even though they may not have registered in earlier phases. The system allows them to do it, so they will do it because that gives them the best info to make their decisions.


So, preventing withdrawals will only make more parents hold back their decision making to the last moment, since it will be final.

[janet88]

I have not gone through 2C registration…but back then when we registered for son under 2B…I panicked when I saw so many parents doing so. p1 registration is a stressful exercise…for those in 2C, it is even worst.

[THC]

phtthp:

I feel that the (initial first two days plus right up to latest 3 pm of last day) in Phase 2C -

Parents can still withdraw, because there are parents who need to withdraw.

But after 3 pm -
There should be no more withdrawal allowed.
Only Permit registration, Yes.
But MOE should implement a cut off time for withdrawal, on the last day of Phase 2C

ESPecially in that critical last 45 mins (3.45 pm to 4.30 pm) -
You just can't simply allow last minute parents to walk in, and throw everyone else in the badly impacted, affected distance group off course, get pushed out without any chance to enrol in Phase 2C.

This is a very serious matter, that MOE has to look into.
If you are one of the pushed out parents directly impacted, you know how painful it is, to get pushed out.

IMO, in today context where multi million trade is done within seconds, why can't parent withdraw and reapply ? Especially since there might be genuine reasons.

I do think compulsory registration for within 1km on 1 and 2nd day.
no registration is allowed for within 1km on 3rd day. The 3rd day is for those staying more than 1km only and if need be add a 4th day.

So when MOE update their website daily, day 1 and 2 shows SC within 1km. No need to call school (some school don't even entertain). And even there is withdraw case, they can only reapply on day 3 or 4 and will be more than 1km.

So for those who have SD on standby will have limited chance as well.

[Nebbermind]

ChiefKiasu:

Why is it withdrawals that is getting all the attention? The fact is, some parents might be simply waiting for the last moment to register, even though they may not have registered in earlier phases. The system allows them to do it, so they will do it because that gives them the best info to make their decisions.


So, preventing withdrawals will only make more parents hold back their decision making to the last moment, since it will be final.

Coz there's always people who like to judge others, some more, some less...

[janet88]

it could also be after registering, parents hear from others that the school they already registered has a change of principal or the teachers are so-so and they have a change of mind.

[pirate]

ChiefKiasu:

Why is it withdrawals that is getting all the attention? The fact is, some parents might be simply waiting for the last moment to register, even though they may not have registered in earlier phases. The system allows them to do it, so they will do it because that gives them the best info to make their decisions.


So, preventing withdrawals will only make more parents hold back their decision making to the last moment, since it will be final.

I have no issue with withdrawals per se.

However, if a child is already registered at an earlier phase, and the registration deprives another child of being registered either at that phase or any subsequent phase, then withdrawal should not be allowed.

For example, if a child is registered in P2A and either P2A or P2B is oversubscribed for that school, then withdrawal of that child should not be allowed at P2C. The registration of the child had deprived somebody else of being registered at either P2A or P2B. If however, the number of applicants did not exceed the number of vacancies at both P2A and P2B, then I have no issue.

If a child is registered in P2A, but the number of places left in P2A and P2B were not fully taken up, then I think withdrawal should be allowed because no other child was adversely affected by the registration.

Put simply, someone who has taken a place that could have gone to somebody else should not be allowed to withdraw.

[JT69]

pirate:

ChiefKiasu:

Why is it withdrawals that is getting all the attention? The fact is, some parents might be simply waiting for the last moment to register, even though they may not have registered in earlier phases. The system allows them to do it, so they will do it because that gives them the best info to make their decisions.


So, preventing withdrawals will only make more parents hold back their decision making to the last moment, since it will be final.

I have no issue with withdrawals per se.

However, if a child is already registered at an earlier phase, and the registration deprives another child of being registered either at that phase or any subsequent phase, then withdrawal should not be allowed.

For example, if a child is registered in P2A and either P2A or P2B is oversubscribed for that school, then withdrawal of that child should not be allowed at P2C. The registration of the child had deprived somebody else of being registered at either P2A or P2B. If however, the number of applicants did not exceed the number of vacancies at both P2A and P2B, then I have no issue.

If a child is registered in P2A, but the number of places left in P2A and P2B were not fully taken up, then I think withdrawal should be allowed because no other child was adversely affected by the registration.

Put simply, someone who has taken a place that could have gone to somebody else should not be allowed to withdraw.

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