NUS High School of Mathematics and Science (Diploma)
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:salute: Wah, insightful!
phtthp\" post_id=\"1982635\" time=\"1593324425\" user_id=\"35251:
Actually, the answer lies with your son (daughter).Ruhemut\" post_id=\"1982624\" time=\"1593319428\" user_id=\"162256:
Dear fellow parents and warm- hearted NUSH seniors, may I know if German is taught as 3rd language in NUSH? DS has some German background and we are thinking of Swiss Uni since we lived in Switzerland before.
The answer doesn't lie with any one of us here from this forum,
because
If your son don't mind travelling to MOELC (Bishan), every week on a certain fixed day (timing), based on which Secondary school the students come from, come rain or shine, since German timetable schedule teaching allocation resources are designated at MOELC (Bishan), then your issue is solved.
But if your son no time to travel, or too far to travel from NUS high (Clementi) to Bishan, then other ways available are to pay $, to NUS professors, who can also teach German to NUS High students.
The difference is,
If engage Teachers from NUS university to teach, need to pay. Not free. The advantage is, NUS university campus ground, is nearby.
If go MOELC (Bishan), no need to pay a single cent, is free, but student (your child) must be committed to go there, every week. Over here, at MOELC (Bishan), they teach German at a fast pace.
If a Sec 1 student already have some prior German background before hand, no issue. But if a student totally start from scratch, with zero back ground knowledge, student will find it, fast pace !
Which weekday to go, will depend on MOELC (Bishan) scheduled time table slot, for different Secondary school students
Example
RGS girls (students) 3rd foreign language day, is on every Friday afternoon, around 3 pm.
But another IP Secondary school, for German, is scheduled on every Monday, not Friday. Different Secondary schools, for the same German language, assigned different week-day (timing) -
:thankyou: :udawoman:
phtthp\" post_id=\"1982658\" time=\"1593342660\" user_id=\"35251:
check this outSerendipity\" post_id=\"1982640\" time=\"1593329336\" user_id=\"9658:
May I clarify where you hear that NUS High students can take German from NUS?
https://www.fas.nus.edu.sg/cls/courses/index.html#languagemodules
All NUS High students, are affliated to NUS (National University of Singapore)
come Year (5 and 6), NUSH students will be studying at NUS campus
for foreign languages, they can start earlier, from Sec 1, if they don't want to travel down so far to MOELC (Bishan) -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1982658\" time=\"1593342660\" user_id=\"35251:
Which part of the article says that Nus high students can take German (or any other foreign languages) at nus? Please post it here.
check this outSerendipity\" post_id=\"1982640\" time=\"1593329336\" user_id=\"9658:
May I clarify where you hear that NUS High students can take German from NUS?
https://www.fas.nus.edu.sg/cls/courses/index.html#languagemodules
All NUS High students, are affliated to NUS (National University of Singapore)
come Year (5 and 6), NUSH students will be studying at NUS campus
for foreign languages, they can start earlier, from Sec 1, if they don't want to travel down so far to MOELC (Bishan) -
macflashpay\" post_id=\"1982775\" time=\"1593413867\" user_id=\"118170:
Hi Ruhemut & macflashpay,Ruhemut\" post_id=\"1982624\" time=\"1593319428\" user_id=\"162256:[quote=Ruhemut post_id=1982624 time=1593319428 user_id=162256]Dear fellow parents and warm- hearted NUSH seniors,
may I know if German is taught as 3rd language in NUSH?
DS has some German background and we are thinking of Swiss Uni since we lived in Switzerland before.
Sorry, I apologized
because
just found out that
German (language) is not offered, inside NUS High.
NUS High school admin said that they had made arrangement for foreign language Teachers to be sent down, or attached inside NUSH school premises, to teach students either (Japanese or French only).
But no German, also no Spanish.
Need to pay.
One semester fees costs around $600, one year (2 semester) around $1200
Any student keen to learn (Japanese / French), may inquire from Admin office, how to enrol.
NUS High won’t check the students’ past PSLE Tscore performance.
If students are keen, can proceed to enrol
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However, the one at MOELC (Bishan), go by PSLE Tscore.
Only students who fall within Top 10% of entire PSLE cohort, are allowed to take (German / Spanish / French / Japanese).
That is why, over at MOELC (Bishan), learn 3rd language is free, because only the Top 10% qualify.
If any PSLE student entering NUS High, who fall outside of Top 10 %, yet wish to take any of the 3rd foreign languages, or tried to appeal, MOELC (Bishan) or (Newton) do not allow.
eg.
students who are offered DSA into NUS High, but fell outside the Top 10% PSLE cohort Cut-off point.
Instead, MOELC will counter-propose, that your child (student) learn either Malay or Bahasa, at MOELC.
Example
For last year (2019 Psle) batch, the Cut-off for Top 10% psle cohort ; was 252
https://www.moelc.moe.edu.sg/textbooks-syllabus/
That's the main difference,
between NUSH High (either Japanese / French only, no German, no Spanish)
vs.
MOELC (Bishan / Newton) -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1982800\" time=\"1593419740\" user_id=\"35251:
Thank you very much! I think MOELC is then better. I may ask a friend for more details. Her son was in HCI and now studying in Munich. I thought they have to reach Language proficiency level C1 or C2 or take German for O-level.macflashpay\" post_id=\"1982775\" time=\"1593413867\" user_id=\"118170:[quote=macflashpay post_id=1982775 time=1593413867 user_id=118170]
Which part of the article says that Nus high students can take German (or any other foreign languages) at nus? Please post it here.Ruhemut\" post_id=\"1982624\" time=\"1593319428\" user_id=\"162256:Hi Ruhemut & macflashpay,
Sorry, I apologized
because
just found out that
German (language) is not offered, inside NUS High.
NUS High school admin had made arrangement for foreign language Teachers to be sent down, or attached inside the school premises, to teach students either (Japanese or French only).
But no German, also no Spanish.
Need to pay.
One semester fees costs around $600, one year (2 semester) around $1200
Any student keen to learn (Japanese / French), may inquire from Admin office, how to enrol.
NUS High won’t check the students’ past PSLE Tscore performance.
If students are keen, can enrol
================
However, the one at MOELC (Bishan), go by PSLE Tscore.
Only students who fall within Top 10% of entire PSLE cohort, are allowed to take (German / Spanish / French / Japanese).
That is why, over at MOELC (Bishan), learn 3rd language is free, because only the Top 10% can qualify.
If any PSLE student entering NUS High, who fall outside of Top 10 %, wish to take any of the 3rd foreign languages, or tried to appeal, MOELC (Bishan) or (Newton) do not allow.
eg.
students who are offered DSA into NUS High, but fell outside the Top 10% PSLE cohort Cut-off point.
Instead, MOELC will counter-propose, that your child (student) learn either Malay or Bahasa, at MOELC.
https://www.moelc.moe.edu.sg/textbooks-syllabus/
That's the main difference,
between NUSH High (either Japanese / French only, no German, no Spanish)
vs.
MOELC (Bishan / Newton) -
Isn’t French a working language in Switzerland too (besides German)? Just curious and kaypoh.
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phtthp\" post_id=\"1982800\" time=\"1593419740\" user_id=\"35251:
What makes you think that the reason that learning 3rd language at MOELC is free, is because only top 10% can qualify?
That is why, over at MOELC (Bishan), learn 3rd language is free, because only the Top 10% can qualify. -
macflashpay\" post_id=\"1982892\" time=\"1593478577\" user_id=\"118170:
If not for above reason, or
What makes you think that the reason that learning 3rd language at MOELC is free, is because only top 10% can qualify?phtthp\" post_id=\"1982800\" time=\"1593419740\" user_id=\"35251:
That is why, over at MOELC (Bishan), learn 3rd language is free, because only the Top 10% can qualify.
u think above reason provided is wrong, how about you enlighten all of us here instead, since from the way you sound, u already got an answer that is different from mine ?
By the way, at this junction, can I feedback to you that
Your words \" what makes you think\" sounds rude and arrogant,
1) as though u are talking down to me
And
2) want to challenge me or confront me
Fyi
I really disliked the way, u ask me question
In Chinese, there is this
\"Gei ren jia fan gan \"
Meaning
Turn people off
Pls change your tone, the way u ask questions
Because
In a forum, people cannot see your face, people only read your question
Also
If you so arrogant, why should people answer u ?
If you expect people to reply you or answer you, surely u ought to ask politely
You can use words like
\"May I know ... ? \"
This is basic courtesy, basic manners
Also, I presume your son or daughter is studying inside NUS High?
Surely you know that in science, there is this scientific principle -
Action and Re-action, takes place
So if u are arrogant, definitely u know what kind of reaction or response, u will be receiving
Let me ask you a question
Do you dare to confront your boss in the office, this type of question,
\"What makes you think ... ?\"
I bet you don't !
Because
If you ask your boss this way, your boss will retort back
\"Hey, why are you talking to me like that ?\"
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All of you here, please learn a lesson from this ksp user (macflashpay)
If you want an answer from people, let's say you need to seek help from some people, how should u ask, or approach the person ?
Ask humbly, politely, then people will reply, right ?
If talk down to people, who will bother to reply ? People ask you to get lost!
Alternately,
let me counter-ask you back,
\"What makes u think, that i should reply you?\" -
macflashpay\" post_id=\"1982892\" time=\"1593478577\" user_id=\"118170:
https://www.moelc.moe.edu.sg/faq/
What makes you think that the reason that learning 3rd language at MOELC is free, is because only top 10% can qualify?phtthp\" post_id=\"1982800\" time=\"1593419740\" user_id=\"35251:
That is why, over at MOELC (Bishan), learn 3rd language is free, because only the Top 10% can qualify.
https://www.moelc.moe.edu.sg/courses/#post_293
Students from government/ government-aided/ independent schools do not need to pay fees to attend lessons at the MOELC.
But to study at MOELC:[list]- you have to be ranked in the top 10% of their Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) cohort.
[/list][list]- you must be a Singapore Citizen (SC) or Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR), or the child of a SC/SPR.
[/list][list]- you must have offered a Mother Tongue Language at the PSLE.
[/list]Even if you are a NUS High student, you may not qualify all 3 criteria above to be allowed to study at MOELC.
The foreign languages (French, Japanese, Chinese and Malay) are however offered in house in NUS High as an elective and open to all NUS High students.
https://www.nushigh.edu.sg/qql/slot/u744/POS_Class%20of%202019_final.pdf -
When one claims something, it should be backed up with evidence. Else it is hearsay or giving some sweeping statements, and may mislead many readers. I know many parents are trying to be helpful here, but it doesn’t take much time to do some quick verification before posting untruths (though unintended).
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