All About Fairness of PV

[janet88]

HI Landmark,

I sense a lot of bitterness in your first post here.
Pei Hwa principal chooses PVs based on what they can offer to the school, their time schedule and also proximity to the school. The school needs PVs on adhoc basis for some ‘jobs’…as such it would be best if PVs stay nearby.

Even if PVs (those staying more than 2km) were selected and move closer to the school, it is for the reason of children spending less time travelling. Of course some parents move in the hope that they have better chance of getting into the school. However, not all PVs can afford to move house…and even if they have the intention to move nearer, there are not many units available nearby either.

[spikey]

Every parent wants the best for their kid(s)…anything they do that is within MOE rules is fair game. No need to be bitter or curse other forumers if they play the game better than you.

[janet88]

Hi landmark,

Judging from your posts, I know you are very upset.
When are you due to register your child for P1 ? This year or next ?
Not everyone who apply to be PV succeed to be one.
All parents want the best for their children, same goes for yourself too. I hope your child gets into Pei Hwa or any school of your choice.

Principals select PVs based on certain criteria, proximity factor included…and ultimately we do not know why they choose xx PV over another person.

Take it easy and enjoy your weekend.

[janet88]

Hi Landmark,

I read your posts and they are all filled with bitterness.
I used to be a PV too and I’ve stayed here for more than 10 years (within 1km of the school)…selected at the last minute having being rejected earlier.

Your English is not weak, in fact, it’s very good. I do understand. Some parents who are selected to be PVs stay more than 2km away. Ok, some have money and opportunity to move nearer to the school in order to be within 1km. Given a chance, who wouldn’t want to stay nearer ?

[tweet]

Hi Landmark


From your profile, you have 2 kids, one Girl born in 2004 and one boy born in 2006. and staying in bukit timah. So you applied for PH and did not get selected??

Regards

[spikey]

landmark:

You called them better players by exploitng the loopholes? They could be seen as a cheater or maniuplator if you see it from another point of view.


At least I play this game by following the rules that are implicitly understood by most players. I dont see how getting this level to get into the system can be seen as good playing skills. perhaps you might want to elaborate and we can have a discussion on this

it's called survival of the fittest...it is not a loophole. A loophole is a way around for a rule that people exploit. The rules are clearly spelt out for sub-phases.

As a PV, didn;t the principal spell it out clearly that PVs were not assured of a place even if they successfully completed their tour?

Arguably, it may have been an implicit understanding and perhaps only by you but all these PVs have played by the rules. We all understand your frustration but there is no need to point one finger at others when actually four digits are pointing back at you.

The other PVs did not cheat or manipulate - they did not pay bribes or make threats. They played the game to the best of the ability and in the spirit of kiasuism beat you at it, fair and square. Determine whether you could have done a better job for your kid and don't repeat the same mistake for your next kid.

[janet88]

This is a thread for parents who have children in Pei Hwa...a thread where we share the different experiences of having kids in diff levels - both happy as well as difficult times. When there are happy times, we share. Same goes for parents who had kids who had a make-up Science exam.


Parents who have kids who are going to P1 in Pei Hwa next year will have their fair share of ups and downs. This is the thread to voice out in a tactful manner.

Finally, I hope we can enjoy some peace again. Have a great weekend everyone. :celebrate:

[Scary]

Hi Folks,

I have been following this thread and is getting worried though my son is due for registration only next year.

After reading Landmark’s post, let me share what my cousin told me during CNY this year.

They are residing at Hillview and did PV for PH, thus allowing them to register in Phase 2B. They were told by the school that they tried to take in PV for >2km and not to shortlist those < 1km so as to give chances to this group of people. Reason being when it comes to Phase 2C, this group of people totally has Zero chance.

So what Landmark had said is not totally untrue. However, I am unsure for the whole cohort of PV for this year and next year’s registration, what is the ratio of PVs within 1km and out of 2km. Maybe the no. of PV residing < 1km is 2 vs 18 out of 2km?

[markfch]

Scary:

They are residing at Hillview and did PV for PH, thus allowing them to register in Phase 2B. They were told by the school that they tried to take in PV for >2km and not to shortlist those < 1km so as to give chances to this group of people. Reason being when it comes to Phase 2C, this group of people totally has Zero chance.

See that you just registered today :welcome:

Personally I find it strange that any sch will purposely try not to shortlist parents who stay near to sch, so as to give max chance to parents that stay more than 2km away. If this is indeed true, I wonder what those parents staying within 1km will say about that. Hmm, interesting food for thought here

[IJJ]

Well, its not like its the end of the world if child does not get into a particular school, there are other schools around. Hoping for the best but do prepare for the worst too. Regardless whether its PV, church affliation or grassroot, in 2B phase, the school always emphasize, its not guaranteed. PH is not an exception. I would not call those moving nearer to the proximity cheaters, on the contrary, I thought it was a smart move. With mine already in PH, we are also looking around to move nearer. If the whole family is willing to accommodate the move, why not?