Choose Secondary school for 2010

[CrazyDad]

Dharma:

atutor2001:

I knew of 3 kids who get A* for every subject (in different years). Their T-scores are in the range of 270 to 272 only. :oops: The Top students in those years I think have T-score of 280 to 285.

Hi atutor2001,

Your standards and expectations very high leh. To me, 270 to 272 is excellent regardless of top student score of 280 to 285.

Agree with you. 270 and above should be considered excellent. Because for the top 4 school, the median of their T-score is around 266-7 and mean also around there. Which means 50% of the students having T-score 267 and below.

[CrazyDad]

CrazyDad:

Dharma:

[quote=\"atutor2001\"]I knew of 3 kids who get A* for every subject (in different years). Their T-scores are in the range of 270 to 272 only. :oops: The Top students in those years I think have T-score of 280 to 285.

Hi atutor2001,

Your standards and expectations very high leh. To me, 270 to 272 is excellent regardless of top student score of 280 to 285.

Agree with you. 270 and above should be considered excellent. Because for the top 4 school, the median of their T-score is around 266-7 and mean also around there. Which means 50% of the students having T-score 267 and below.[/quote]Add to that, another 49% of student will have T-score from 266 to 270. So in total, for RI, 99% of students has T-Score range from 263 to 270

[chengsmummy]

[quote="CrazyDad

Add to that, another 49% of student will have T-score from 266 to 270. So in total, for RI, 99% of students has T-Score range from 263 to 270[/quote]
In RGS sec1 this year, there are total 13 classes, 3 out of this 13 classes are consists of high scorers and GEP pupils. I think the percentage of students have 270 above is much higher than 1%. My dd got all A* for her last year’s PSLE, her T-score is slightly below 270.

[turquoise]

chengsmummy:

[quote=\"CrazyDad

Add to that, another 49% of student will have T-score from 266 to 270. So in total, for RI, 99% of students has T-Score range from 263 to 270

In RGS sec1 this year, there are total 13 classes, 3 out of this 13 classes are consists of high scorers and GEP pupils. I think the percentage of students have 270 above is much higher than 1%. My dd got all A* for her last year's PSLE, her T-score is slightly below 270.[/quote]

Hi chengsmummy, are there 3 or 4 GEP/high scorer classes? I thought there were 4. Thanks.

[red rose]

chengsmummy:

[quote=\"CrazyDad

Add to that, another 49% of student will have T-score from 266 to 270. So in total, for RI, 99% of students has T-Score range from 263 to 270

In RGS sec1 this year, there are total 13 classes, 3 out of this 13 classes are consists of high scorers and GEP pupils. I think the percentage of students have 270 above is much higher than 1%. My dd got all A* for her last year's PSLE, her T-score is slightly below 270.[/quote]

Just curious. If you don't mind me asking, chengsmummy, is your dd in 1 of the 3 top classes?

[atutor2001]

Dharma:

Hi atutor2001,

Your standards and expectations very high leh. To me, 270 to 272 is excellent regardless of top student score of 280 to 285.

Hi Dharma

You get me wrong. I was only trying to give Vikaesh an idea of the T-score a child actually get with 4 A* relative to the Top score in that year.

Vikaesh was trying to estimate his T-score with certain estimated raw score. For T-score estimation, we need to relate it to the Top score in that year. That is why I highlighted the Top scores of those years where the 4 A* get about 270.

So if the Top score this year is 290, then I expect a child with 4 A* will also get higher T-score than other years, which is why I think the cut-off point of RI will also go up this year. The scores given are for making estimation based on past actual data, not for judging whether is 270 good enough.

[Dharma]

atutor2001:

Dharma:

Hi atutor2001,

Your standards and expectations very high leh. To me, 270 to 272 is excellent regardless of top student score of 280 to 285.

Hi Dharma

You get me wrong. I was only trying to give Vikaesh an idea of the T-score a child actually get with 4 A* relative to the Top score in that year.

Vikaesh was trying to estimate his T-score with certain estimated raw score. For T-score estimation, we need to relate it to the Top score in that year. That is why I highlighted the Top scores of those years where the 4 A* get about 270.

So if the Top score this year is 290, then I expect a child with 4 A* will also get higher T-score than other years, which is why I think the cut-off point of RI will also go up this year. The scores given are for making estimation based on past actual data, not for judging whether is 270 good enough.

Thanks for the clarification, atutor2001. I made my comments with reference to your statement ...\"Their T-scores are in the range of 270 to 272 only.\"

[Dharma]

turquoise:

Hi chengsmummy, are there 3 or 4 GEP/high scorer classes? I thought there were 4. Thanks.

Hi turquoise,

There should be at least 4 such classes. These classes consist of GEP/high scorers in PSLE/those who got in thru DSA (with exception of Sports DSA). In Sec 1, the girls are allocated based on MEP/SAP/MT(Tamil & Malay). Those doing MEP/SAP grouped together in 1 class and similarly for MT.

[CrazyDad]

turquoise:

chengsmummy:

[quote=\"CrazyDad

Add to that, another 49% of student will have T-score from 266 to 270. So in total, for RI, 99% of students has T-Score range from 263 to 270

In RGS sec1 this year, there are total 13 classes, 3 out of this 13 classes are consists of high scorers and GEP pupils. I think the percentage of students have 270 above is much higher than 1%. My dd got all A* for her last year's PSLE, her T-score is slightly below 270.

Hi chengsmummy, are there 3 or 4 GEP/high scorer classes? I thought there were 4. Thanks.[/quote]

Do agree with you that there are more 271 and 272 in RGS. I did the estimation base on RI. Now if we look at the top 4 statistics as followed;

School - Lowest score - Medium - Mean
RGS----- 263------------ 268------ 269
RI------- 262------------ 267------- 267
HCI------ 259----------- 263 -------265
NYGH---- 263------------266--------267

We can see that girl has better result than boy. For RGS, since medim is 268 and mean is higher by one point, indicate that about 49% of students have score range from 268 to 272.

So you are correct. :lol:

[CrazyDad]

atutor2001:

Dharma:

Hi atutor2001,

Your standards and expectations very high leh. To me, 270 to 272 is excellent regardless of top student score of 280 to 285.

Hi Dharma

You get me wrong. I was only trying to give Vikaesh an idea of the T-score a child actually get with 4 A* relative to the Top score in that year.

Vikaesh was trying to estimate his T-score with certain estimated raw score. For T-score estimation, we need to relate it to the Top score in that year. That is why I highlighted the Top scores of those years where the 4 A* get about 270.

So if the Top score this year is 290, then I expect a child with 4 A* will also get higher T-score than other years, which is why I think the cut-off point of RI will also go up this year. The scores given are for making estimation based on past actual data, not for judging whether is 270 good enough.

Actually different combination of subjects have different full scores, estimated as followed;

Combo----------Full Marks
M+S+EL+CL----296
M+S+EL+TL-----303
M+S+EL+ML-----309

So grouping in classes base on T score alone is sort of bias.