All About T-Score
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tutormum:
It seems that despite the hoo ha over the ''sweets & choc\" question by parents, many students were still able to get the correct answer ''68''. Read the exchanges among students on the internet, and you will realise many managed to get the answer, 68 but were worried that it should be something else. In my daughter's school, though there are some who came out of the room with red eyes, there are many who also got 68 as their answer. Actually, I do not agree that that question was unconventional. One could easily find such questions in top schools' exam papers (available in the black market). That is why even LJ's P4 sister could get it right. I think most who got that question wrong, like my daughter
Sorry, atutor2001, I beg to differ. Take the example of this year's Maths paper, it seems that only those who are fantastically good in Maths will excel. From various feedback it seems that the angle and sweets questions brought down most if not all the talented students. Some schools have zero student who can solve them. Even the GEP students are brought down and as far as I know many school top scorers did not perform well also. This seems to be more of a GEP test than an exam. It seems that almost all the students are affected one way or another. If I'm not wrong, less than 1% of them will manage to get full marks. No amount of practice will prepare students, esp weak ones, to be able to score full marks if this trend continues. Simple reason - there's no way you can prepare a child for unconventional questions set by MOE. Even my son won't be getting full marks for this paper and he was ranked top 300 in his cohort based on a national competition. He's a genius in Maths and knew how to use LCM when he sat for the GEP selection test without being taught.
, was due to exam stress. She usually has no problem with such question. Give it to the P5 GEP students now, I believe they too, will be able to solve it. It's different when one is under time constraint and the fact that this year's paper was generally perceived as not easy, even by those who are stong in Maths does not help to calm those exam nerves. I wonder which school has zero student who could solve that question. The teachers must be very sad.
The angle question is a bit tricky though. However, if one is calm, one will be able to see that it is actually not difficult. (impt part is to be able to spot the equilateral triangle. it took me sometime to spot it too.). My daughter got this question correct. Apart from the sweet question, she has already confirmed some careless mistakes here & there despite scoring close to full marks for her school Prelim. I was hoping her Maths marks could pull up her T-score. Now, no hope liao. For now, she does not wish to talk about PSLE anymore. Top Priority is computer games! Mousehunt & etc. I agree with her; no point crying over spilt milk, after result is out, if bad then cry lor... 
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Hi,
It comes across to me that 2008 PSLE results are more competitive. Student’s scores are very close to each other. But this year the results are very widespread. meaning the smart ones are really smart, getting 270 and above. There are only a handful of people who gets 260-269 and majority are in the range of 250-255.
Do you see the same pattern in your kid’s school ?
Anyone knows where can we get information on score breakdown ? I am keen to find out % of students who gets 270 and above, 260-269, 255-259 and etc.
cheers, -
Doby:
Hi,
It comes across to me that 2008 PSLE results are more competitive. Student's scores are very close to each other. But this year the results are very widespread. meaning the smart ones are really smart, getting 270 and above. There are only a handful of people who gets 260-269 and majority are in the range of 250-255.
Do you see the same pattern in your kid's school ?
Anyone knows where can we get information on score breakdown ? I am keen to find out % of students who gets 270 and above, 260-269, 255-259 and etc.
cheers,
Is the distribution curve given together with the PSLE results slip ? My son did not receive anything but I saw some students holding colorful brochures ..... which he was not given.
If there is a distribution curve, then may be able to estimate # student > 260 # student > 255 and so on , and ===>
If too low quantity than 2008 for >260 significantly, does it implies that COP of good schools may drop this year ? Else will not have enough student to fill up the good schools.
Just wonder, son not affected. Any experts in this area ? -
jitancat:
simi colorful brochure :? son also dont have.Is the distribution curve given together with the PSLE results slip ? My son did not receive anything but I saw some students holding colorful brochures ..... which he was not given.
If there is a distribution curve, then may be able to estimate # student > 260 # student > 255 and so on , and ===>
If too low quantity than 2008 for >260 significantly, does it implies that COP of good schools may drop this year ? Else will not have enough student to fill up the good schools.
Just wonder, son not affected. Any experts in this area ? -
Doby:
Agree totally, experienced the same in my son's school. In fact the principal even mentioned that this year's results seem to have fewer pupils above 260 in many schools. Lets hope the COP comes down a couple of points in the top schools.Hi,
It comes across to me that 2008 PSLE results are more competitive. Student's scores are very close to each other. But this year the results are very widespread. meaning the smart ones are really smart, getting 270 and above. There are only a handful of people who gets 260-269 and majority are in the range of 250-255.
Do you see the same pattern in your kid's school ?
Anyone knows where can we get information on score breakdown ? I am keen to find out % of students who gets 270 and above, 260-269, 255-259 and etc.
cheers,
When will the official COP's be published so that parents can decide on appeal process ? Can any of the parents with older children help ... -
I'm like the top pupil in my school for 6 years, and I was, true indeed still the top. But with an aggregate of only 257 (@#$%!!!!). :stupid: I think you're right. And it's because of the maths. Those who are in the \"A\" and the \"A*\" standard all don't know the same questions, hence all of them dropping to A, or getting a low A*. Those who are the elites knew most of the questions, and got an A* ( a high one, as most people don't know the questions they know) and the score got widespread. The \"middle A*\" had very less people.
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Stumbled upon a blog which calculates the T score.
http://road-to-psle.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-psle-aggregate-and-t-scores-are.html
Hope it is useful! -
harini:
The COP for this year will only be known on Dec22. ie. When MOE will inform the schools the lowest aggregate of the student posted to the school through Central Posting. You may call the schools to enquire on Dec 22. It will not be updated on the website till much later.Agree totally, experienced the same in my son's school. In fact the principal even mentioned that this year's results seem to have fewer pupils above 260 in many schools. Lets hope the COP comes down a couple of points in the top schools.
When will the official COP's be published so that parents can decide on appeal process ? Can any of the parents with older children help ... -
Original Title: T-Score vs grade
why is his T-score so low only 192 -> Eng - B, Chinese - A, Maths B and Sci A?
His classmate got Eng, Maths, Sci - B and Chinese A but score 204? -
I belive the range of each grade can be quite wide. So low A and low B could have lesser t-score than another student with high A and high B.
My son’s friend has lower grades than him but T-score is higher.
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